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[–] Montagge 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

MAGA would say that and vote straight R

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but they wouldn't say that about anyone else I can think of. And we're not trying to get MAGA, we're trying to get people to fucking vote at all.

[–] Montagge 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They'll say that about anyone claiming to be an outsider.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If insiders have done fuck all except blow money up billionaires asses, who can blame voters for liking outsiders?

[–] Montagge 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yes and no. Of course he has power and connections, but to his followers he is an outsider (although I don't understand how they ignore everything that shows the opposite) and the media and many politicians treat him (rightfully) as a pariah. That gives him legitimacy in the eyes of his or undecided voters.

Now, nothing he proposes will change anything for the vast majority of his voters for the better, in fact it will make things worse. And that's ignoring everybody else, especially migrants. But when he says "I see your problems, voters, here's the solution: fascism", they more readily believe him because he is perceived as an outsider, not like politicians who frankly haven't done shit for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because the DNC sceapped those proposals for more neoliberal bullshit that every one hates. People are vocal about what they care about. If people tell me they want steak and i keep giving them tacos, they are going to leave the restaurant and get pizza from the sketchy local joint next door instead.

[–] Montagge 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What proposals for what neoliberal bullshit.

Also neoliberal policies from a neoliberal party?!? Surely you jest!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If a neoliberal party can't win 2 out of 3 elections against a fascist, maybe they should pivot away from neoliberalism.

[–] Montagge 0 points 6 days ago

To what exactly? Neoliberalism is left wing in this shit hole.

Don't say progressive. If that was popular there would be more than two states that have a progressive party.