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Literally everyone in my family thinks it was Muslims. I want to give up, people lack any fucking critical thinking skills :( I'm scared of saying anything because my mother is good friends with an Zionist who never even lived a long time in ISSrael... I'm afraid they'd say I'm anti-Jewish because of disagreeing with them.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

maybe helpful?

"What are the strategic consequences of decisively rejecting the tripartite social theory advanced by Orwell, and adopting Marx’s all-encompassing one instead? The basic call to action looks something like this:

  1. Stop accusing the masses of being “brainwashed.” Stop treating them as cattle, stop attempting to rouse them into action by scolding them with exposure to “unpleasant truths.”
  2. Accept instead that they have been avoiding those truths for a reason. You were able to break through the propaganda barrier, and so could they if they really wanted to. Many of these people see you as the fool, and in many cases not without reason.
  3. Understanding people as intelligent beings, craft a political strategy that convincingly makes the case for why they and their lot are very likely to benefit from joining your political project. Not in some utopian infinite timescale, but soon.
  4. If you cannot make this case, then forget about convincing the person in question. Focus instead on finding other people to whom such a case can be made. This will lead you directly to class analysis."

https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels

You can’t be doing well if it seems like an improvement to base your life and your sense of self on a demonizing slander that you know is only a fantasy. To challenge that fantasy, to identify it as nothing more than that, is to threaten to send them back to whatever their lives were like before they latched onto this desperate alternative.

That suggests to me that if we are to have any hope of disabusing them of their fantasies, then we will need to recommend some third alternative, something other than the lie or the reality that had seemed even worse. https://redsails.org/false-witnesses/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago