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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 week ago (8 children)

My wife and I tried to get Bernie in over Hillary, what was that, 8 years ago? An actual plan vs. "I'm not Trump". This makes me upset that the wishes of the many were straight up ignored. I knew he was good then and we were failed.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I voted for Bernie (and later Hillary somewhat begrudgingly), but doesn't it piss you off though that Not Trump didn't work, though?

Like for a reasonable, ethical individual, that should 100% be enough.

So it speaks to the disinformation war going on and just how strongly Republicans control the national narrative. All of course further exacerbated by the internet, social media, and Citizens United.

Don't get me wrong, I'm aware Democrats need to embrace their own flavor of populism. Still, it pisses me off that Not Fascism isn't enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Still, it pisses me off that Not Fascism isn't enough.

I'm going to go against the grain here a little, and bring up race. Sorry to people tired of id pol, but please hear me out in good faith.

I know this is going to sound inconceivable to a lot of people on Lemmy, but there are still parts of the American voter base that cannot conceive of having a president that is black/mixed race AND a woman. They don't care about fascism, they don't care about policy, they care about the skin color and gender of their chosen leader.

Remember, Donald Trump rose as a direct response to the election of Obama.

We can pretend we live in a post-race, post-sexism society, but to pretend this wasn't a factor when hate crimes have been on the rise for multiple minority groups says otherwise. All these people coming out of the woodwork post-election results to threaten women and black people says otherwise. Wayne Gretzky and his entire family was at Trump's victory party in Mar-A-Lago, and most of the hockey fandom gave ZERO fucks.

I actually wonder if they would have done better if Tim Walz was first on the ticket instead of Harris.

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