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Of course, let's blame the users ๐
Now, now, remember correlation is not causation. Maybe it's not the unintuitive design; maybe a disproportionate number of idiots buy Teslas?
In the case of the model Y referenced, this release is under a mat. You wouldn't see it in normal operation.
The 16 digit code can be found in the "My Data" section on x.com, assuming your account has been linked to your vehicle.
MOST?
Yea the cheapest ones skipped the manual release for the back doors. Gotta deliver maximum value to shareholders!
I don't want to be a dick but not using the mechanism to open them is user error.
But it does also sound like they aren't very well placed in some models. I feel like the manual release being the same as any car would make sense. As a fucking standard door handle.
I assume the no power locking is an anti theft thing. But if you're in the car already just provide a handle.
If the door can't be opened easily in a panicked life or death situation, it's a design flaw and needs to be recalled and fixed.
Yeah like I said they should be a standard door handle.
I will be a dick: this is one of those imbeciles teck-bro takes, always comming with excuses for big tech "but actualy.. "
If you design a door handle and people cannot open it: your design is shit. Point.
This was stupid when apple did it with the 'you're holding the phone wrong, idiot', it is criminal when it is done on a security feature.
That's literally what I said
It is because people don't get a full walk through of how to unlatch it later on..they might on delivery day but at that point people are excited about a new car and not paying attention. And then because they never use it, they forget it exists
Just watch a video of how fast car fires spread into the cabin, and then ask yourself how often you asked someone how to leave a car in case of emergency before you entered.
Add panic and the fact that you have to remove a panel or look under the floor mat to pull a string away from you, and you maybe will understand how this is just bad design.
if you make something with a door and the door needs a manual, your design is shit.
Oh I know it is not good. Even my Honda Fit has a messed up lock system, its almost like a sideways roller switch without a truly discernable lock/unlock position so in tu dark you can't tell if it is rolled forward or not. Messes us up when we are in the passenger seat and son:t have the powelock handy
Emergency exit mechanisms should be designed in such a way that one CAN forget about it or never even know about it, then have it obvious, readily available, and usable, all for/by the dumbest motherfucker in existence, in an emergency situation.
The most common analogous situation is emergency exit door signage. Most companies do an annual fire drill, which isn't enough to really learn anything. Emergency exit signs are easy to interpret and anyone can understand what they mean and use them to get to safety, regardless of prior experience.
Vehicle doors should be the same. Tesla front doors tend to be easy and obvious to open in an emergency (I own one and front seat passengers frequently use the emergency latch instead of the door button), but the rear doors (for the people seated closest to the damn battery nonetheless) have ridiculously difficult emergency opening procedures.
I agree. Some people aren't level headed in a panic scenario. They need glow in the dark arrows like the markings on jet planes pointing to the canopy release
Some? I'd say this applies to almost everyone.
I may be biased as a person that has been in a lot of scenarios where I remain levelheaded. Paramedics suggested I become one after seeing my calmness dealing with an accident scenario.
So it's not an intuitive design. A major error by itself. Since in a panic a passenger who does not know the secret is stranded inside.
My sister has a tesla, I have ridden in it, and I have no clue how to open the door without power.
I get it, my friend has ModelS. He showed me the mechanical release, when I asked about loss of power. It is not intuitive.
Opening the front doors seems easy enough in the user manual, but opening the back doors requires you to remove a hidden panel then pull a cable, but not all versions of the car even have that hidden panel. Assuming the one in this article did, the car owner would need to give a little safety briefing to every passenger if you want to expect them to know how to open the door. And I'm really not sure what you're expected to do if you have a kid in a carseat in the back.
The backseat of a Model Y is like the world's worst escape room