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NGL, not asking for a friend. Given the current trends in US politics, it seems prudent to at least look into it.

Most of the online content on the topic seems to be by immigration attorneys hustling ultra rich people. I'm not ultra rich. I have a job in tech, could work remotely, also have enough assets to not desperately need money if the cost of living were low enough.

I am a native English speaker, fluent enough in Spanish to survive in a Spanish speaking country. I am old, male, cis, hetero, basically asexual at this point. I am outgoing, comfortable among strangers.

What's good and bad about where you live? Would it be OK for a outsider, newcomer?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Ive usually seen "Expat" defined as someone working in another country, but explicitly with the intent to be there temporarily and leave once their time at that job ends, rather than moving there with an intent to stay and join that society. Which, granted, doesnt seem to be what OP is actually talking about in this case.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What OP is talking about has been a thing since the 90s and even 80s and earlier with ex-military.

Move to a cheap country where your pension/disability/passive income/whatever makes you wealthy.

Originally places liked it because it was an influx in cash. But then it became too popular and they were gentrifying places to the point locals couldn't afford to live and these leeches never worked.

It became big again with the internet when people became able to work and American job while overseas remotely. But by now most American companies just won't pay American wages. If they wanted someone overseas they'd pay them the low wage they always do.

With those younger people they added the "temporary" because they say they'll move back someday.

What you're talking about (if the job is in that country) would be a migrant worker.

But they also don't like that label, they think they're better than it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

I'd argue we should call all migrant workers expats. Unless they're literally working in a migratory fashion, spring here, summer there, fall somewhere else, etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It's short for "expatriate." I'm not saying it isn't used in the way you described, but that's not the original meaning.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expatriate

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, I always thought an "expat" was someone who was temporarily sent to another country to work for their company there.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Americans don't want to be grouped in with "dirty non-white immigrants" so they consider themselves expats even if they intend the move abroad permanently.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Thats just the expats changing the narrative when people started calling them out on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That's what it means but some people use it wrong and some people complain about it being used wrong, wrongly