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We're at 3 or 4 at worst. It's gonna get so much worse, guys. Remember that it took at least fifteen hundred years to get back to where we were.
At the same time, Rome survived the extreme corruption of the Jugurthine War, the infighting of the Social War, and three servile wars in the Late Republic, and the golden age of Rome hadn't even begun. The Empire survived Caligula, Nero, and Domitian before the reign of the Five Good Emperors even came to pass.
Where we are is anyone's guess.
Just figured I'd lighten the doom a little.
And "The Fall" was a Roman general mad his army wasn't being paid, and ignores that the capital had moved, Rome the city was still ticking along and the "Byzantine Empire" called and considered themselves Roman.
Civilization Ending and The Fall of Rome was very much a Renaissance narrative about how great they were more than actual History.
For all the people saying "This is it. We're done. It's all over.": It can get so much worse. Screwed is a matter of degree. One can get more screwed, or one can try to get less screwed.