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this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2024
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Something about .ml and MLs in general is that they really just aren't that large a group. If we want larger communities, Reddit is still much bigger than Lemmy. If we want a flawed ally in politics, progressive liberals outnumber Leninists and are far less likely to deliberately betray us. (That's why MLs always equate Liberalism with fascism; if people can ally with Liberals MLs have basically nothing they can bring to a coalition, and so they can't seize power.)
Progressive liberals eventually realize the conflict between capitalism and progress and drop the liberalism. Then they either check out or they join whatever group is organizing in their area. Ideology is secondary to building power and actually improving people's lives.
The reason liberalism is equated with fascism is that fascism is a failure mode of liberalism; as the contradictions of capitalism grow, liberals either stop supporting capitalism and thus are no longer liberals or drop any pretense of freedom for the working class and apply methods typically reserved for colonies at home to protect capitalism.
Unless you are a diehard right-winger, Liberals will always be more likely to betray you than anyone on the left. The causality is backwards here, liberals will always side with fascists over the left, thus they are identified as moderate-fascists. Just like how the Democrats want nothing more than to just be polite Republicans.
Tankies aren't leftists. Even assuming your statement is true, it doesn't matter.
Spanish Civil War.
That's not how being a political ally works. That's just such a stupid take.
yes they are, Tankie has become so abused and meaningless as now only means anything to the left of Dick Cheney or not going along with US foreign policy.
Spanish Civil War, where the Soviet Union was the only foreign power to give large amounts of aid to the Republicans and France and Britain sat out, and US oil and other business interests backed Franco. Where there were divisions over tactics and priorities but where communists fought with the Republicans, and it is largely after the defeat and popularizers like Orwell that a stabbed in the back myths about communists came to prominence. Yes, the liberals were not a complete monolith, so there were some liberals with the Republicans.
Also, in an underdeveloped, still mostly feudal society, liberalism can still be a progressive force.
I am being short and glib since I was just responding to an epically dumb post. but if you want to know how fascism is a necessary outgrowth of liberalism and the need to protect and serve capitalism leads liberalism towards fascism in crisis.
https://www.amazon.com/Apprentices-Sorcerer-Tradition-Critical-Sciences/dp/1608462021
Purged the Anarchists, yes. That's actually the biggest example of why MLs should literally never be trusted more than liberals.
Edit: actually, why the fuck am I even continuing this discourse? You're obviously a lying piece of shit. Blocked.
Purged the Anarchists? No you are the lying disingenuous person here. If we were talking about the Russian Civil War, you might have something approaching a point.
Edit: proving the point, hatred over "tankies" is just that you don't want your own positions or viewpoints challenged or questioned
Famously loyal and trustworthy liberals will never deliberately betray you lmao. Just hope they never find out if you have to break a law the fascists draw up to protect yourself or others 🚔🚔🚔
And hope that you're not part of whichever group they're throwing under the bus to appease the fascists either.
Who are 'you' in this equation? A boat dealership owner?
Pretty much anyone on the left.
Note: Tankies aren't leftists.
Note 2: MLs are tankies.
Never leave your mind palace. You're the smartest person alive. You can write political theory completely on your own without ever looking out at the outside world just in your own head. It's always perfect. You never have to define terms. You never have to explain mechanisms. And don't you dare ever expose it to danger. Stay pithy my friend.