I for one have stopped posting any content to lemmy.ml communities.
this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2024
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"We should defederate from everything which does not agree with my .world view and create a giant centralized echo chamber"!
Why the fuck does every .world user suddenly want Lemmy to be Reddit?
Personally I would like to be able to talk to people with different views, in a civil manner. But Lemmy.ml doesn't seem to want that. If you post something that they don't like (even if it's a very moderate view and is expressed in a completely civil way) then they ban you. They seem to really hate moderate people.
Most of the users saying this went around screaming the word Tankie all over the place on .ml.
I got instance banned for saying federal democratic republics are a form of democracy.
Edit: I also don't care. I never expected M-Ls to do anything besides M-L things and they don't owe me anything.
Modlogs are public, everyone can see why you were banned.
Also no ml would disagree with that, here's Lenin explaining the difference between a capitalist democracy and a workers democracy.
Everyone can see why the mod said they were banned. If you believe the mod logs, I was banned from 196 for "supporting genocide"
If you believe in modlogs, then drag was banned from [email protected] for "trolling", which is what a trans person explaining their pronouns is.
Wait, you're DroneRights?
No, drag's name is Dragon Rider.
Probably shouldn't support genocide then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I would love for you to find the comment where I did that
Which is why you can see them do it exactly as stated. "American propaganda" lol.
Have fun hanging around people who ban people for disagreeing with the party line of a dead ideology that had its corpse cannibalized by fascists. That will surely lead to the second revolution.
Can you point at me where it says you were banned for "American propaganda"? I tried ctrl+f "propaganda" to see what you were saying that got you banned and nothing came up.
Nobody is going to disagree that a bourgeois democracy is a democracy, only that bourgeois democracies represent the people instead of bourgeoisie.
That'd be the part where they hid the actual comments and mod responses on all the .ml communities. Interesting that it rewrites the history when they decide to undo it, I hadn't actually noticed it expired.
So weird and uncharacteristic of M-Ls to do something shitty and then delete the records and then lie about the cause because it makes them look bad...
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"Different world views" isn't a problem, the problem is users espousing repugnent "world views" and being assholes.
Pretending like we have to put up with other users' repulsive, insane "ideas" and bullying behavior in our spaces is laughable. Bigots, fascists, and actual tankies can fuck off.
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I don't think the meme makes sense. The ml users don't seem to care how much other content is out there. They still participate as much as they'd like.
Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it's easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.
If it helps, most of this inter-instance drama comes from a surprisingly small group of people. I've blocked most of them (looks like I missed the OP here) and it's much quieter now. Looking at my block list, they're mostly from .world, but that could be due to the large population.
just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that
Sounds like you picked the wrong instance. The one I use doesn't defederate, from anyone. So when some drama about "should we defederate from some server because they are a big corp/because they are right wing/because they are tankies/because they allow loli/whatever, I basically get to watch and laugh knowing it's not going to effect me.
It is easy to maintain freedom of speech on Lemmy. The idea that your instance can defederate from instances like Lemmy.ml, but everyone on Lemmy.ml can continue to post on their own server, and federate with any other given server by default is the entire point of federation and proof of concept that the fediverse is great for free speech. You’re under the impression that all Lemmy servers are supposed to be part of one big whole, but that’s not what the fediverse is for.
You have to understand that “free speech” is a negative freedom and it doesn’t mean everyone has to listen to you. It just means nobody can force you not to speak.
If you're unhappy why stay? Personally I'm happy with the Lemmyverse as it stands now — certainly happier than in the corporate lowest-common-denominator that is now Reddit.
same logic as "if u hate america then leave".
some people want to do their part to make the site (or country) better. they cant do that by giving up and going back to reddit. lemmy is great....but it could be better.
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Another day of .world reddit migrants thinking de-federating or boycotting .ml will change literally anything.
It will. It will change which instance they shriek "tankie!" at.
https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad
Here is a nice community that keeps track of their bullshit
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