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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

wasn't Harper's Ferry widely condemned at the time by the liberal masses? not well read on the topic but I've seen people compare October 7th to it for that reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Some yes, but major public intellectuals were on his side worldwide. Victor Hugo sent a letter in support.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was, but it kicked off the Civil War just a few years later. In terms of making people get off their asses and do the right thing* it's solidly in first place so far.

*Only after much kicking, screaming, denial, and eventual failure to deliver fully on the true end of slavery in the US.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah I think saying he kicked off the civil war is a huge reach

It happened because of economics not because the north grew a conscience or feared imminent uprising

also slavery still isn't truly ended, let alone legally ended

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i mean, I think the civil war was gonna happen anyway right? isn't this a bit great man ish?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

100%. JB was an absolute sick bloke but Harper’s ferry was a huge L

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It 100% would've happened anyway, but Harper's Ferry was the fire under the southern aristocracy's ass to go through with it because suddenly there was a very real example of a northerner actively instigating mass slave rebellions to destroy their way of life. Had it not happened, the civil war might not have occurred for another decade or two instead of within five years.