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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

This is some ginned up bullshit.

The "you're next" after referencing a high profile murder is what actually did it.

Like, that's a credible threat. 15 years is fucking insane, and context is going to matter a lot. Did she just get denied cancer treatment for her 2 year old? Or told it's not insurance's fault doctors won't prescribe opioids? Or any of a million things in between.

That's why we have trials, to find out all that stuff. And if it's a jury trial I feel juries would be sympathetic.

The 100k is the real bullshit, but not owning guns doesn't mean much. It's insanely easy to buy a gun without a background check thru private seller loopholes.

But our bond system is insane, because the it causes judges to inflate the amount 10x. If you can afford to put it up, you get it all back later. A bondsman you pay 10%, they put up 90%, and they get the whole 100% back. Your 10% is their profit. If a bondsman thinks that's a good risk, why does the court consistently over estimate the risk?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago

Bonds only exist so poor people are punished more than rich people.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

credible

able to be believed; convincing

Did anyone really think she was coming after them after that? No. She got heated on the phone and said something she shouldn't have.

It's not nothing. What she did was wrong, and it's reasonable for it to be a crime. We don't want to always have to investigate or deal with constant threats. However, she was neither credible nor specific, which are two major criteria. (Keep that in mind when you're posting here, by the way.) She committed a crime, but not one that should be very serious.

The way they've framed her is obscene.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

No. It was not a threat. It was not wrong. It was not a crime.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the insight on the typical terms of bonds. Good info.

So eyes peeled on this one too I guess. They are making an example of her, I mean the judge plainly said so. We can’t let them get away with these excessive charges.

I didn’t kill anyone and I never will. But I will be damned if I let this moment fade into the next news cycle.

As a society, we are having the conversation about for-profit healthcare NOW!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They are making an example of her,

Yep, which is opening them up to civil suits, but is an open secret about our justice system.

As a society, we are having the conversation about for-profit healthcare NOW!

Think of it like the fediverse. Last year a big event made a lot of us ditch reddit, but some had already been here, and for the majority it wasn't enough for them to change behavior.

I don't think Luigi is the big event that causes permanent change, there's been a lot of people who have been pushing for healthcare reform, 20 years isn't rare, some for decades longer.

The first presidential candidate who had universal healthcare as a part of the party platform was Teddy Roosevelt in 1920...

It's a century long fight against the healthcare industry, and it's not going to be as easy as what just happened to change shit as long as all of our options in general elections have already been bought off.

We reference dogs who catch a car everytime Republicans win majorities and the presidency, but on 1/7/2020 Joe Biden didn't leap into action, he "looked into" things for so long we lost the House and had an excuse not to do anything. "Winning" by electing a moderate only depresses turnout in midterms and the next presidential cycle.

We have to grow up and admit that or absolutely nothing will really change. The first step is understanding the root cause or we'll never stop fighting symptoms.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? You just sort of wandered off in the middle there. If I sus your point, we just have to accept it? Or that it will be a gradual erosion?

You can sit there and be all wise. I’m going to keep shitting on insurance executives and encouraging others to do the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

If I sus your point, we just have to accept it? Or that it will be a gradual erosion?

Nope, it's that Joe Biden wouldn't fix it, and neither would Kamala, hell, the biggest recipient of UHC donations was Kamala

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/summary?id=D000000348

I’m going to keep shitting on insurance executives and encouraging others to do the same.

No one's saying you shouldn't.

I'm just saying we also need to shit on the investors.

And the politicians from both parties they bought to prevent us from fixing anything.

We won't win this thru the courts, they said with the money.

We won't win this with politicians who took the money either, we can only win if we first win in the Dem primary. Lose there and we'll keep losing.

I want to actually fix the problem, and am talking about how

You want to fix a symptom, and it's a major symptom, but we'll be fighting the problem at the same time so why not fix the problem so fixing this (and other) symptoms is easy?

You can sit there and be all wise

In general you do t insult people because you don't understand, but I provided clarification anyways because this is important. Others won't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

"The car on the other side of the zipper merge is going now. You're next."

It doesn't mean I intend to do anything, I'm just observing society.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Work any phone helpdesk job and you will be threatened six ways to Sunday by people who are upset over the most minor things.

Yes this incident came after very prominent consequences for an insurer in the US, but I would be hard pressed to believe that someone who works for a company that denies people lifesaving healthcare hasn’t heard worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I did for a couple years, we'd have reported this too.

Anyone would...

[–] nomy 3 points 3 days ago

And they did, I was threatened multiple times at a Sprint call center and reported it.

We all did, cops never even take a report, weird that the health insurance people get special treatment.