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Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Dear god, no. This is an abjectly terrible idea. Dems aren't going to win until they stop being the other party of billionaires who are centre-right at best yet claiming to be for the working man. Come on, learn something from this election. We want a Sanders or AOC, not this milquetoast rejection of the full scope of the Overton window.

This is going to be a crazy four years, and to suggest we come out on the other side wanting a return to the same bullshit that held wages and lifestyles back for, by then, 50 years, is a failure to read the room. No one wants what the Democratic party currently offers, and I don't see her suddenly becoming progressive. We don't need another president on the cusp of getting Social Security when elected.

We want that for ourselves after paying into the system for so long, but that's not going to happen. Find a new standard-bearer or die. Learn. Adapt. Run on real change, not the incremental shit that was resoundingly rejected and so generously provided us with the shitshow we're about to endure. Voters stay home when you do that, and here we are.

I mean, how many CEOs need to be killed before anyone gets the message that what they're offering has the current panache of liver and onions? Doesn't matter how well it's prepared; the world has moved on, and whoever gets the nomination in '28 needs to as well. Harris is not that candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I hate saying it but I don't think a woman can win. There's too many patriarchial fucks in this country that might vote democrat, but not for a woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Maybe we should try running women who aren't republican lite before we say that the issue is just that they're women.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recognize this as a factor but I don't personally think it's a result changing factor except in the closest races. I think it's because the 2 women that have had the closest opportunity have positioned themselves as defenders of the status quo when the people clearly want change.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Frankly, this was always going to be where a two-party system would end up. Citizens United simply accelerated things. What the people want is irrelevant to the ruling class. I didn't want to be homeless for the past year, and yet here we are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Disgusting but true. Most voters won’t look at policy; they just want the illusion of a “strong man”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have an ex whose parents are like that. Voted for Obama twice, I'm sure they voted for Trump three times. They literally moved out of our state (Colorado) because we elected a gay governor (Polis) and my ex's mom was terrified God would punish the state for that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Narrator: Colorado's economy boomed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I've always found this an odd argument, but as a switch, maybe I'm biased. Sometimes, I want a woman to take charge.