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I've had it up to here with bad faith rhetoric from liberals since this started. I have had a very bad day/year. I'm fuckin diving into storm front and earning my ban.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

the goal isn't for ukraine to win, the goal is for american military companies to profit off of the war and for american energy companies to profit off of the destruction of nordstream 2. they're willing to sacrifice ukraine and it's people for this while baiting them with false promises of inclusion in the imperial core. Also they wanted ukraine to have NATO membership since NATO membership allows america to build bases and station nukes much closer to moscow than previously. America simply uses the language of liberalism (human rights, westphalian sovereignty) to justify this imperialist expansion of NATO into the former soviet countries. A long term goal might also be the balkanization of Russia from internal pressure. If Russia keeps having to fight proxy wars against the USA (Afghanistan in the 80s, then syria, now ukraine, I forget whether Georgia and Chechnya were US proxy wars) then all that conscription and war spending will eventually cause societal collapse. If Russia is balkanized the way Yugoslavia was, the imperial core capitalists get to loot the entrails of the collapsed Russia and play the new balkanized regions of russia against each other. This would also cause russia's large nuclear arsenal to be split up amongst smaller states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What is there left to loot? They looted the corpse of the soviets already and modern Russia has never recovered, but they still want to loot what little it has?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Cheap work force and farmland and oil, I guess. Same as most 3rd-world imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Russia's top 10 annual exports

Mineral fuels including oil: US$211.5 billion (43% of total exports)

Gems, precious metals: $31.6 billion (6.4%)

Iron, steel: $28.9 billion (5.9%)

Fertilizers: $12.5 billion (2.5%)

Wood: $11.7 billion (2.4%)

Machinery including computers: $10.7 billion (2.2%)

Cereals: $9.1 billion (1.9%)

Aluminum: $8.8 billion (1.8%)

Ores, slag, ash: $7.4 billion (1.5%)

Plastics, plastic articles: $6.2 billion (1.3%)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This has been every Westerners wet dream since Napoleon. It'll surely become reality this time though. Even the Soviet collapse didn't balkanize Russia itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the goal isn’t for ukraine to win, the goal is for american military companies to profit off of the war and for american energy companies to profit off of the destruction of nordstream 2

You best start believing in Metal Gear story arcs.

You're in one. :jetstream-troll:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Most metal gears satirize reality but this time, reality grew to match rising..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ukraine already lost. Basically all their civil rights have been crushed by their own government. All of Ukraine's state assets and farmland have been sold off to foreign owners at firesale prices. The Nazis have completely, utterly dominated the culture war and dissent from the Nazi line is worth your life.

ALl because (nomianlly) what's his ass didn't want to sell Ukraine out to the EU on terrible, terrible terms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

All of Ukraine’s state assets and farmland have been sold off to foreign owners at firesale prices.

oh yeah, that happened in like 2015 after the USA couped yanukovych in 2014 because he refused an IMF loan in 2013. The USA installed arseniy yatsenyuk who went through with those IMF loans

https://archive.ph/xNgm1

https://archive.ph/TR816

https://archive.ph/T8sCn