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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

they'd probably have non-shitty copper by then, but magnets? thems witchcraft

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And don't forget that you need to demonstrate that it's producing a current. Just get a light bulb, right??

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

probably go with a hand-crank zapper or something. it's tricky to do much without resistors and capacitors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Zap the royalty to prove your point and get flayed and executed for it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can make a generator you can make a motor, just connect them together and have one move when you spin the other

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The could do the same with a belt, go away with your flash nonsense youngling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Plating a metal object with a different metal would probably be the simplest, impressive thing. Or just heating a thin wire?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Depends on if Ea-nasir was still in business.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people dont even know how to make wires.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

really? isnt it just forcing/extruding hot metal through a die?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

How would you buy copper with no money? It’s not like you can exchange your modern money to their currency. So first you need to find a job and any good paying job is probably protected by guilds and you don’t even speak their language so good luck finding a mentor who will offer an apprenticeship. You will be a peasant. Nothing more than a subsistence farmer who has to rent the land and give half his yield to the local lord. Hunting? Killing anything bigger than a fowl will get you in trouble since big game is property of the lord.

Also copper ore doesn’t lie freely on the ground. You need to mine for that shit and be lucky that there is a source in the vicinity, since you can’t travel very far. Can’t buy a horse with no money.

And if you found a source you need to convince an entire community to help you mine for copper. You sure as hell can’t do it alone. Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. And you don’t even speak their language.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still.

I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before.

Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you get the materials for a still with no money?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks.

…Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot.

I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. ­— Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there.


On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There's always the world's oldest profession...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter.

Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it ~~when they aren't looking~~.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it.

If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution.

Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods.

If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

1st century? probably with diamonds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Don't forget it'll need to be covered with an insulator, else your coils would short circuit and not producing any current. So you'll need some chemistry to produce insulator thin enough to create your generator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It is, but the ancient method is tedious as fuck. It was basically just pulling a piece through dozen of gradually smaller holes, by hand. I dont think you could do one pass extrusion without all of the precision machinery needed to manufacture such machine. But I aint a blacksmith, I just saw the process in some documentary a while ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably easier to use a lemon and copper plates. Not sure what you'd connect to it though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Use it for electroplating/etching, that's cool as shit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

lodestones lol, people have known about those for aaaaaaaaaages