this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2023
475 points (97.0% liked)

World News

39102 readers
3302 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

“Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you,” he said quoting former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev.

Russian politician Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday Russia could have a right to go to war with NATO.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

72? Pretty generous. I'm pretty sure we have more HARM missiles than they do S400 SAM batteries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s not the war, it’s the keeping.

In any case, we’d probably bog down around the same time China and everyone else on that side got involved. I don’t think it would be as clean or as quick. But, yeah. We could definitely screw them pretty harshly without ever landing troops

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China and Russia have no military alliance, Xi is just taking advantage of the fantastic business opportunity that opened up for him for cheap Russian imports. If Chinese troops became militarily involved in Russian territory, it would probably be to acquire their claims over eastern Siberia, dating back to the Qing Dynasty. Otherwise he's just be supporting a state that competes with him for the dominant regional position.

The Tsar took that land from them, back in the day though. If you look at their current claimed territories, they never forgot. Maybe if Russia agreed to become a subject state of China, then they'd help militarily, but they're certainly not friends or allies.

Russia does have actual allies, but not many. And China isn't one of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what you’re saying is we could Jalta Russia at the Urals with the Chinese and set up Cold War 2 on a really big scale?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's what everyone wants, we get west russia, China gets parts of Siberia with resources, and with it we buy peace for another 50 years while everyone consolidates.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We don't need to occupy Russia to stop them from continuing a war that they start. We can just destroy their equipment and manufacturing locations so their armed forces surrender.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just gonna say, destroy the vodka and cigarettes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That falls under equipment!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There isn't anyone really on that side . China and NATO have differences, but China doesn't have anything to gain from helping Russia, and nthey lose a lot is NATO loses. They will sit out. Similar with India, they will stay out . Iran or a few other small counties might consider joining, but I doubt it as most are smart enough to know that is suicide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk, China might see the spread of resources as a good opportunity to try an invasion of Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe, Xi seems just sane enough not to try, but who knows. China and Russia can't really win against NATO though they make things harder. India likely hates China enough to join NATO as well.

Of course we are talking nuclear armed countries so everyone loses is possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Putin made his move because Xi sounded like he was going to go at the same time.

Xi was closing on HK and planned to switch immediately to Taiwan, even started the domestic pivot, then his navy told him they needed at least 5 years (honestly its more like 15, they are just starting carrier flight ops on the Liaoning and their newer ones aren't shaken down yet).

Putin had made his preparations, Xi hinted he might go anyway once the west was distracted.

If daddy z hadn't stayed in kyiv history would look really bad right now.