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Pop!_OS is an operating system developed by System76 for STEM and creative professionals who use their computer as a tool to discover and create. Unleash your potential on secure, reliable open source software. Based on your exceptional curiosity, we sense you have a lot of it.

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Whether this is your first experience with Linux, or your latest adventure, all are welcome to discuss and ask questions about Pop!_OS and COSMIC. Keep the discussions friendly though, and remember to assume good intentions whenever you reply. We're all here because we have a shared love for Linux and open source software.

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Software Latest Fedora Version Pop! Version
---- 44.0 44.1 42.0
Gnucash 5.3 5.2 4.8
GIMP 2.10.34 2.10.34 2.10.30
------ 1.3.1 dnf 1.3.1 1.3.0
Firewall Gufw 22.04 N/A 22.04.0
~~Timeshift~~ Master.mint21 (Mint) dnf 22.11.2 21.09.1
22.06.6 (TeeJee)
KeepassXC 2.7.6 2.7.6 2.6.6
affected by CVE-2023-35866 (upto 2.7.5)
Libreoffice 7.6.0 (fast adopter) 7.5.5.2 7.3.7.2
7.5.5 (LTS)
Popsicle 1.3.1 (github) AppImage 1.3.1 1.3.2
PDF Arranger 1.10.0 1.10.0 1.8.2
Virt Manager 4.1.0 4.1.0 4.0.0
Videos (totem) 44.0 43.0 42.0
Nautilus 44.0 44.2.1 42.6

I am "not" using Flatpak on Pop!

Most of the cases, those software are from Ubuntu repositories.. would Pop!_OS consider building their own, or as some other people mentioned, rebase on something else?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can easily assume you have no idea what LTS means. Nor apparently do you realize that we frequently update the core system software in Pop. Our kernel, firmware, and drivers are newer than what most Linux distributions have. Same goes for Pipewire, Lutris, Virtualbox, etc.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do know what LTS means and I also am aware of how frequently Pop updates these things, I just prefer not assuming that OP has zero reason for asking and find solutions and explanations more productive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Posts like these demanding that we rebase are not constructive, and will not be well received.

I'm tired of seeing these accusations lately that we don't update Pop!_OS even though we are constantly updating packages and release new ISO's every week or two. In addition to the constant steam of security updates from Ubuntu, which will continue to support 22.04 until 2031.

We make ~30 ISO releases every year to enable hardware support for the latest hardware. Every new System76 product ships day one with a new Pop!_OS ISO on the website containing all of the latest updates we made to backport the latest kernel, firmware, drivers, mesa, zfs, etc.

There's a person here making weekly package update posts. Follow those, or the pop-os/repo-release GitHub repository directly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for all the work you and the team put into updates for Pop!_OS. While I am on older hardware I still appreciate that we are getting updates to continually improve the distro regularly. Things like the pop scheduler are not visible but make big differences in the day to day experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@bitwise @mmstick Pop!_OS is awesome, it's my daily driver, and I've tested quite a lot of distros, but never stuck. I always come home to Pop!_OS.