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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't modern US doctrine that aircraft carriers are the dominant force in the navy? China has limited aircraft carrier capability and lacks the self-sufficiency of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The War Nerd: This Is How the Carriers Will Die (2009)

hypersonic missile tech has only become more asymmetric since then

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

The lesson here is the same one all of you suckers should have learned from watching the financial news this year: the people at the top are just as dumb as you are, just meaner and greedier.

Amen

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If someone can build a hypersonic missile, someone can also build a hypersonic missile interceptor missile... And you can fit a lot of missiles in a CVBG.

Sure, the CVBG doctrine only really works against the Japanese (where both babies are fighting over small islands that are far from their respective homelands)... But I don't think that hypersonic missiles obsolete carriers in that role.

I do think that that role is useless against China or Russia given that they aren't really colonial imperial powers with territory around the world, but...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think hypersonic missile interception is possible, unless the US gets laser weapons working or something like that. Hypersonics are incredibly fast, and Russia's fighter jet launched hypersonics easily defeated the Patriot air defense systems in Ukraine, when they targeted them. Even intercepting normal supersonic and subsonic cruise missiles is a crapshoot, the iron Dome in Israel gets defeated by homemade rockets at times. Interception technology is very overrated currently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Interceptors are more difficult to make than the missiles themselves, and often are more expensive. They also don't have 100% interception chance so you need to fire 2-4 just to be sure.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aircraft carriers are only good for shows of force against vastly inferior militaries where the US can easily enforce complete air superiority

Otherwise, they're just a massive sitting defenseless duck against modern anti-ship missiles