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Part of it is a generational divide, and part of it really is "influencer" culture being deliberately aggressively obnoxious noise.
It comes off as the same behaviour that occurs when I mention the soviet union. You get 5-8 different things about atrocities/genocide/purge/whatever thrown in your face with demands for you to counter/explain all of them all at the same time, and because that would take writing 5000+ words it shuts down conversation.
That's precisely what this is. It's the same fucking thing but in video format. The goal of it is purely to make any response you make too long for anyone to engage with.
It is a gish gallop, yeah.
It's like when some sh.itjust.works or programming.dev cryptofascist showed up and said WHAT ABOUT GOMMUNISM VULVULZULA GORILLION DEAD ALSO HUMAN NATURE BUT WHO WILL INNOVATE YOU'RE ALL CHINESE AND/OR RUSSIAN BOTS ALSO YOU'RE PRIVILEGED RICH KIDS ALSO YOU DON'T HAVE REAL JOBS ALSO YOU HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS WHICH MEANS YOU ARE FUNDAMENTALLY A BAD PERSON
It is one of the most irritating and bad faith tactics they use. I always try to highlight this and then rein them in a bit, making them pick one at a time to go into in more detail in a good faith way, and that we can pick through them one by one but doing it all at once is unfeasible. 99% of the time they immediately disengage because they're not interested in a good faith discussion.
The best and only outcome I think that is possible when this happens is trying to highlight to other readers that the user of this tactic is not acting in good faith and is not interested in truth.
Perhaps my least favorite trait in my fellow Americans isn’t their ignorance about history or international affairs. It’s the breathtaking overconfidence they have that whatever historical narratives they’ve absorbed from the culture are absolutely correct and unchallengeable, even if they know you’re someone who has forgotten more about history than they know.
It’s that Protestant American ethos that every ignorant dolt and their mother should have a strong opinion on everything and share it with confidence. Truly no respect at all for expertise or knowledge in this nation, or knowing when to listen and learn
It also is often how conservatives and reactionaries and a couple of libs I know talk.
Like: "No, just cause you did a quip does not mean your argument is valid or my counter point isn't.
Things can be true at the same time and your points are mostly re-iterating things for yourself so you feel seen and heard while your self is destroyed in capitalism since your waking hours are bound to wage work during which you only get the 5 minute and lunch breaks to present your asine opinions."