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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a dumb argument. The platonic ideal of a sports league does not exist, global-capitalist sports leagues exist plus whatever the DPRK has. No one is arguing against the platonic ideal, they are arguing against the existing institutions and the systemic problems that inform their nature.

Except maybe the high-contact non-comvat sports like American Football and Rugby, but certainly not basketball.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were organized sports not a major cultural part of communist and socialist nations? Is there something inherently fascistic about "professional", for lack of a better word, athletics and organized sporting leagues, as in the best in their class coming together to form teams and compete against each other for plaudits and the entertainment of spectators?

A lot of people are arguing against sports, or at least organized sports, in general here. Many in here are upset with the cultural assumptions put on them by conservative, patriarchal societies through sports and using this to attack sports in general and the people who enjoy them. The term "sportsball" is not an attack on the capitalist model of professional sports, it's way to infantilize people who enjoy a specific form of entertainment.

Those are valid feelings and valid critiques, but I believe they are attacking symptoms and not the cause.

And I do still feel it is best we don't fall out of touch with the working class, which generally is fond of sports.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

the soviet union in some cases introduced sports leagues to areas