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Remember when the US accused Russia of preparing to stage some kind of atrocity propaganda false flag in Ukraine with zero evidence? (www.axios.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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And they said we should just accept it on their credibility.

I had the occasion to look this up again, so I thought I should post it for more than the shitlib I got it for (so now it's also for the three of you sorting by new at this hour)

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I firmly believe that the "false flag" that they were expecting was going to be Ukraine's attack on Donetsk, which was flaring up with increased shelling that we saw getting seriously bad in the daily OSCE reports we were all watching at that time. They were expecting Ukraine to go in and they were getting ahead of it by spreading the idea that this would be a Russian false flag and pretense for Russian action.

This didn't happen because instead of waiting for Ukraine to do this action the Russians instead decided to get ahead of it entirely and just invade. They actually caught everyone with their pants down by doing so as well because everyone assumed Russia wanted a pretense before acting.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

It was very 👁 when I read on here that the reason Russian troops were able to get so close to Kiyv in the initial assault was that Ukrainian forces were in an offensive position around the Donbas. Don't know if that's true, of course.