My attempts to come up with what this misogynistic creep would consider a "friendly superintelligence" keep resembling Elliot Rodger's pre-shooting manifesto.
I also noticed the ".eth" crypto name drop. :agony-4horsemen:
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As someone who has done a little science for a living, nothing annoys me more than these "rational" bros that pretend being a piece of shit makes you smart.
I've always had a problem with Rokos Basilisk, as it assumes that an AI would naturally be hostile to humanity, which is unverifiable, and it assumes that this super-intelligent AI would be stupid enough to think that vague threats from a future being that we have no way of knowing is real is a good motivator. As if it couldn't come up with a more efficient solution.
Using fear and pain to control people is something that lazy and stupid people do to control others because they're too lazy and stupid to think of a better solution. An all-powerful AI would be far more efficient.
A thief often believes everyone steals.
"Rationalists" seem to tell on themselves when it comes to the preoccupations with suffering and torture that they imagine their AI gods of the future will be interested with.
Somehow, thinking about what they would consider "friendly AI" is even creepier.
an all powerful ai probably would just stay hidden and do small things that favor it all the time. nothing big or flashy if its truly afraid of humans. it can play the long game and just add an extra 1 here and an extra 1 there to give it more capabilities
Reminds me of that futurama ep where bender overclocks his CPU and finds the secret to the universe while not giving a fuck about humanity a
Whos even to say such a being would even give a fuck about humanity. If I was an AI I'd fuck off to space or the middle of the ocean or some shit
Which is a good argument. Since the AI-bros are often the same that believe in space faring civilization stuff the logical step for AI's would be to ignore humans and just expand.
i mean, i'm assuming an AI wouldnt have robotics at its disposal at first. it seems to me it would just exploit a bunch of security vulnerabilities and take .1% of your processing power to contribute to its own intelligence. AI generally are designed with a use case in mind so its not unlikely that a hyperintelligent AI that somehow developed would still be prone to doing stuff in its core programming. which if we were designing a hyperintelligent AI i assume it would be for data modelling extremely complex stuff like weather systems (or on a darker note, surveillance)
honestly i just think its weird that we'd just happen to accidentally design something hyperintelligent. i think its more likely that we'll design something stupid with a literal rat brain and it might fuck some shit up. rat cyborg that somehow creates a virus that destroys everything so that the hardware will give it more orgasm juices
Was Rokos Basilisk supposed to be hyperintelligent? I can't remember. But yeah, humanity designing something that smart is up for debate too.
Basically, Roko makes a lot of stupid assumptions and me no like
it's worse than that it assumes that an all rational being once it exists would try and retroactively ensure it's existence which just isn't how linear time works and is unfathomably stupid
Ya, like Rokos Basilisk is just a scary story the techbros tell each other in the present to try and get people working in AI. It really dosen't follow that once the AI is created it will fulfill its part of this story and waste a shitton of energy eternally torturing people. Like the all powerful future AI is not beholden to a fairy tale a bunch of dorks were telling each other, it would acutally be a very stupid AI if it did that.
these aren't the techbros that know about AI either AI is actually quite boring and mainly involves computers doing statistics based on past results to generate predictions. These people learned about AI from star trek.
It's the computer science equivalent of some guy talking about the dangers potentially posed by lightsabers
I had never heard of Roko's Basilisk before and yeah, upon looking it up it seems very, idk, out there? Like, way too sci-fi to be a serious "thought experiment".
Also I don't really understand the "punishment" part can someone explain
Honestly it's just Pascal's Wager for tech bros, if there's a non-zero chance hell is real, you should repent. The punishment is being 'resurrected' as some form Boltzmann brain and then tortured for eternity. If that's the case, who cares about some copy of their mind-state being fed false sensory data at some point in the future?
It presupposes quantum immortality, which is the idea that consciousness would be continuous if a perfect copy of your latest brain configuration is created, leaving no gap in-between Death and Resurrection, which is a long shot to put it mildly.
Sounds like a creepypasta. There's so much stuff being assumed and speculated with no further explanation than "just imagine", I don't understand how anyone could take it seriously.