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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes takeover was a poor choice of words, I should say I fear the handover. Didnt mean to come across as trying to do the “this is the most important election of our life” type thing like we could prevent them from holding power with that.

Could you expand on what you mean by the lumpen left? Or just like an article about it? I know that was a thing the BPs pushed for (like organizing gang members right?) but I’ve hardly read anything about them aside from quick rundowns and a few of their speeches.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm reading bout BPs mostly, and contrasting it against contemporary analysis of the labor aristocracy. With the massive prison population, homeless population, those with addiction diseases, and the underemployed, the lumpen is getting larger and larger compared to the days of the BP when it was mostly blacks in ghettos (still here) and the American Indians (still here). So if we manage to get them organized, likely by building from the AIM and Black Power movements, it is simultaneously the most likely formation and the formation most likely to trigger the most violent reaction.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know if any of our mainline parties have started thinking about how to do this?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

How to organize the lumpen? Not that I am aware of. However, the PSL is pretty well based on theory and historical analysis and Lenin was pretty clear on the need for the legitimate party and the less legitimate guerilla movement working together towards the same goals. So I imagine that without coming out and saying it the PSL is aware of the need for a lumpen movement and is probably doing what they can to agitate, educate, and support.