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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (22 children)

This whole discussion is fucked, everyone is using the word "see" differently because our language is not built to talk about mental abstractions.

You know how schizophrenia can make you see things and people? Can you experience the visual effects schizophrenia at will? If you said you are a "1", is that what you mean by "1", or is it, in some way, different than that?

If it is different than that, at all, other people who have the same perception as you are imagining that you can trigger literal hallucinations.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is kind of the conclusion I've come to. I don't really know what it is that 'see' is really supposed to mean. I mean very obviously I don't see it in the same way as I see an object in front of me, but at the same time there is still an apple that has various characteristics and exists in some way within some sort of mental space, and whose attributes, including ones which for a real apple would be visual, I can be aware of and understand

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

There is a good chance you are like the OOP from that description

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