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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

First, you aren't wrong and I want to complement you on you seeing the human lives here. It is important!

To give a zizek-fuck reply, the only way I can grieve and denounce the violence is by pointedly withholding that grief precisely because that grief is weaponized by Israel to commit more atrocities. This removes the shield Israel uses and exposes them to their own horror.

To put it another way, I will also withhold support for an abuser because an abuser will use that as a means of defending and continuing their actions. Keeping that support from them, however objectively legitimate that support is, forces them to confront their own actions.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

withholding that grief precisely because that grief is weaponized by Israel to commit more atrocities

I think this is where we're all at tbh.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think my solution is to ensure that the culpability isn't misattributed, which is why I emphasized that the blame for their deaths lies with Israel.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An honest-to-goodness Truth and Reconciliation would make great strides for proper attribution.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a long way off, but I would like to live to see the day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He I justed posted a Big Joel twitter video where he says exactly that about the grief thing!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just watched it. He says it much better than I did!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He's good with words.