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Now explain to me how, in good conscience, one can build a movement to oppose police brutality and racism in one country and, at the same time, glory in the killing of 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in another?

"Yeah, riddle me this, 'leftists': How can one oppose a state-sanctioned system of racist violence and oppression, while also opposing a state-sanctioned system of racist violence and oppression? ✔️mate!"

Also, "unfathomable number of children" is at most, still less than 3 months of gun violence in USA. So pretty strong vibes on that.

I like how they slip this in at the end of a paragraph

In the UK, a headmaster at a Jewish school gave his students permission to not wear their uniforms, so that they would be less identifiable to hoodlums glorying in the moment and looking to beat Jews up.

Technically it's a statement of fact, but it's an attempt to launder the opinion of some random guy no one has heard of or cares about as if it represents an objective reality that students were in danger. The author makes no attempt to justify it; we're just supposed to believe that the headmaster was correct. It's either bad writing or sleezy, your call.

Also, does anyone have more info about antisemitism at the rally? The linked article doesn't give any examples in the free portion.

Look, I'm not gonna celebrate killing of "civilians" (they are settlers, which is tbh different. They are also reservists).

But literally hamas wouldn't exist without Israeli occupation and apartheid. They wouldn't exist without Israel imposing the world's biggest concentration camp on Palestinians. Militant struggle would happen with hamas, and if not hamas then another group. I've said this before but it's like putting water over heat and getting mad when it boils. What's the point of condemning hamas when they are just the result of conditions placed upon Palastinians

The romanticization of Hamas’s killing spree by one small subsection of the left, the argument that the shedding of innocent blood is somehow forced on the killers by their victims, is the same one that far-right murderers, such as Anders Beivik or Dylann Roof, have been making these past several years before they open fire with their high-velocity rifles and spray supermarkets, schools, music festivals, churches, synagogues, and mosques with their murderous ammunition.

These clowns do be having the same talking points. Anders Beivik or Dylann Roof weren't trapped in an open air prison for their entire lives. They are very privileged 'people' (white, male, middle income etc) who hate minorities because they want it all for themselves. Meanwhile, people who join Hamas do so because they are frustrated of the repressive colonial force treating them like they aren't humans. Comparing the two is ridiculous.

I'm sorry, but this is like asking me to sympathize with Nazis when Warsaw rose up. ~~I don't care how many Nazi kids are killed, or how many Nazi civilians die.~~ The simple answer is do not be a genocidal apartheid ethnostate and do not support a genocidal apartheid ethnostate.

Israel sacrificed its moral support when it asked us to look away during its atrocities.

EDIT: Nazi kids are not a thing. I apologize. I was way too hasty. I'm leaving it up as a reminder for others to keep a cooler head.

It's so fucking stupid.

PROVE YOUR LOYALTY TO THE STATE! PROVE YOUR LOYALTY TO THE STATE! PROVE YOUR LOYALTY TO THE STATE! PROVE YOUR LOYALTY TO THE STATE!

It doesn't fucking matter. None of these twits are going to kill you because you don't buy in to thier campaign of murder. They'll just wring hands and clutch pearls and whine whine whine. Fuckers.

Yeah I'm not gonna take lessons in morality from a vile racist who excuses apartheid and the butchery of 700 Palestinian children

Be an American.

Come from a country founded on violence, believe this violence justified.

See another nation using violence for infinitely more justifiable reasons.

"That's terrorism!"

OMG WHY AREN'T YOU ALL SHARING THE SHOCK AND HORROR!

:Wonka-dessert:

When the warnings and inevitability have been out there for decades. Everytime "the left" warned the political establishment that their support for a genocidal aparthied is unacceptable and needs to be tampered with the rights of the Palestinians we were told to SHUT UP / SIT DOWN / ADULTS ARE TALKING / IT'S COMPLICATED!

When the inevitable happens - we're like yeah we told you but your missle profits and fanatical lunatics are more important than brokering peace. So don't look to us for sympathy when we told you so. Decades and decades and well just

Serious question - what is Portside? Who/what funds them etc. Or is it just a glorified blog?

It doesn't have a Wikipedia page.