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Americans don't believe in anything, half of them can barely read, if you asked them whether Israel was justified in butchering 800 children the poll would most likely flip with 70% saying no, if you asked whether Israel has a "right to self-defense" without any qualification, probably 90% would say yes
If you asked them if Israel has the right to genocide the Palestinians, 50% would say "not sure" and 50% would say no, but 40% would vote yes if it was a closed ballot referendum item
Americans are incoherent lotus eaters who think the height of political intellectualism is enlightened centrism with "remote drone bombing" characteristics
“Were IDF soldiers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold justified in entering a Hamas school? 85% says yes”
I don't think there is any "western" country where the people have any control over foreign policy. Japan elected a leader in 2012 that was going to prevent a US military base. Resigned a week before he was going to do it. Similar story in Australia. France elected a leader ~40 years ago I think who was going to dismantle french control in africa. Got elected and realized he had no power to do so, or at least said as much. The recent wars in the middle east were less popular in Europe, afaik, and yet they all stayed involved for exactly as long as the USA.
I think foreign policy, domestic policy, and economic system together are the state. Everything else is just window-dressing. Thats why we have no democratic control over it. The authority of the state is non-negotiable.
If you asked them whether "Israel" has a right to bomb the Palatinate to defend themselves against hummus they would answer yes.