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I think 2001 was worse only because the attack happened on US soil, the only place where the imperial core feels safe, and where they think their imperial violence won't hurt them, ever.
I'm sure a lot of people can see that, but it's also kinda ironic how people who weren't even old enough to truly remember post-9/11 are far more on the right side of history on this lol
Like I'm 20, no one my age was even born on 9/11 and yet it definitely seems like the majority of people my age support Palestine, and actively supporting Israel almost seems fringe. Meanwhile most 30-35+ year old Americans who should be seeing the parallels seem like proud zionists
I only found one poll measuring 18-24 year olds (Harvard-Harris) and they phrased the questions in a really manipulative way; like you can immediately infer support for Israel would be lower if they didn't force you to pick between "Israel" and "Hamas" (and when you don't even have a "no answer" option, people who are generally pro-Palestine but don't want to openly side with Hamas will just... not answer). And yet pretty surprisingly, half of 18-24 yos sided with Hamas?
All this poll tells me is gen z is relatively based and millennials are also a bit more based than I assumed
Wasn't the closest to mainstream pushback in 2002-2003 when Bill Maher went on a CNN-show and said that you couldn't really call Al-Qaeda cowards, because they actually believed in their cause strongly enough to die for it? And Bill maher was IMMEDIATELY shitcanned IIRC.