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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

New York Times analysis indicating the projectile that Israel claims was a failed PIJ rocket was actually an Iron Dome missile and is unrelated to the subsequent hospital explosion. The Israeli narrative is falling apart if even the ~~US propaganda rag~~ "newspaper of record" is going against it.

It has no conclusions on the cause of the explosion though, just debunks of Israel's claim. But that doesn't leave many other options.

Wikipedia is finally being forced to accept that the expert analysis is not so one sided, going from

Experts largely agreed that a misfired rocket launched from within Gaza was the likely cause of the explosion based on video analysis and the extent of the damage caused by the impact.

to

Experts speaking in the days after the strike agreed with the Israel Defense Forces' analysis that a misfired Palestinian rocket launched at Israel from within Gaza and captured on video was the likely cause of the explosion. However, a subsequent video analysis by The New York Times concluded that the much-publicized video in fact showed the break-up of an Israeli rocket unrelated to the hospital explosion.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The NYT concurs that there were two explosions near the hospital before the hospital itself was hit. Calling the scene "chaotic". What they don't mention is that in the extended video from Al Jazeera at least two more explosions can be seen in the next 10 minutes after the hospital was hit.

So either a half dozen palestinian rockets misfired, or a palestinian rocket misfired from somewhere out of view of all cameras and happened to land perfectly in the courtyard in the middle Israeli airstrikes on the area, or israel was conducting airstrikes in the area and hit the hospital like they repeatedly warned they would.

This is how much bullshit we have to suffer through from western media whenever the US or it's allies commit a blatant and well-documented war crime.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remembering how even people in this site began to waver.

Biden and the media being able to so blatantly lie with such confidence can shake the resolve of anyone.

In such times, remind yourself of this moment. They are the most despicable monsters, truth is a luxury to them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did they warn this specific hospital? I remember them telling hospitals to evacuate, i'm just curious if they ever specified this one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

The Anglican bishop of Jerusalem, Hosam Naoum, confirmed that the hospital had received at least three Israeli military orders to evacuate in the days before the blast, though he declined to cast blame on either party. The hospital had been hit by Israeli shelling on Sunday, wounding four staffers, he said.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231018-what-we-know-about-the-deadly-blast-at-gaza-city-s-al-ahli-hospital

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, the doctors there said they received something like three warnings, and Israel previously hit it with a smaller strike earlier.

Edit: This is ignored in western media because they "work for Hamas".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Yes, they warned this specific hospital 3 times and also bombed a wing of it a couple days earlier as well

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just yesterday, the ~~CIA~~ Voice of America was lying about this again. I guess going with that narrative is too farcical even for the lyin' NYT.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I'm sure they had advance notice that the NYT was going to run this story, so they hastily put out one last lie to muddy the water

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s just like the fucking pipeline. The intelligence agencies aren’t used to having their narrative questioned, and didn’t put together an airtight story to begin with. You can’t invent a perfect alibi after you committed the crime.

There will be months of “well that explanation was wrong, but we JUST discovered this possible way it was Hamas.”