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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is it just me or does the well-studied victim-play here actually weaken the arguments presented instead of strengthening them?

I know I shouldn't argue with... how do I put this... devoted people like that, but I can't resist....

They think the worlds opinion, who looked the other way while 6 million Jews were chewed up and turned to ash by the Nazi Reich, is going to matter a single fucking bit.

"looked the other way", eh? That's impressive. Because for people who looked the other way, their accuracy was pretty good while they reduced the whole of Germany to ruins in order to stop the Nazi monsters who did this.

I wouldn't even have answered had you not brought up the Nazis (as patriotic people from Israel tend to do). The immeasurable crimes inflicted onto the world by the Nazis is not empowering Israel to lash out like it does. On the contrary. Among the Israeli I know are quite a few that continuously bring up the Shoa with me (I'm German) and now use it to vaguely make up excuses for what happens to the inhabtiants of the Gaza strip.

But shouldn't you of all people, you who are so keen on "keeping the memory alive" rise up immediately when you see how Ghettos in Warsaw and the Gaza strip share all too many similarities?

Shouldn't you of all people know the pain of being prosecuted and down-trodden just because someone decided out of the blue that you belong to the enemy now?

Shouldn't you of all people know the suffering, the hunger, the never ending pain of going without food and water?

Hamas needs to be stopped. Hamas needs to be prosecuted. With all the might you have. Yet, declaring all people in that region to be active Hamas criminals (like you did) is in itself criminal. This habit of dehumanizing whole poplulations out of a victim-mentality is one of the most effective rationales in the toolbox of the one evil you should recoil from copying. It's what Joseph Goebbels was so disgustingly proficient at.