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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

80k for a missile is absolutely insane πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

80k for a missile

This can mean only one thing... Israel's national security depends on the US dollar collapsing :inshallah:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so? What do you mean by collapsing? Where can I read more about it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I was kind of teasing in suggesting that the only way Israel would be able to afford enough missiles is if the US dollar wasn’t worth anything

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't that cheap actually? Patriot SAM is 4 mil a shot

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still crazy nonetheless lol.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I don't mean to say it's cheap in the absolute sense, just relative to other anti air missiles. Even non-western missiles like S300 are 1 mil a missile

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I might be misremembering, but doesn't the iron dome rely pretty heavily on volume of missiles being shot as a defensive response rather than precision accuracy? Meaning each missile might "only" be 80k but they are launching like a dozen of them?

80k is still hundreds of times more than the rockets Hamas is using anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

what the fuck? seriously?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That’s extremely cheap, most modern munitions are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.

Even a 70’s rinky dink Soviet Strela-2 MANPAD is $120,000 per unit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For reference, you can buy a decent > 300hp tractor for 80k. Isnt it absurd that these expendable missiles are on the same price range as a whole damn tractor πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even putting aside the obvious grift/profit factor of these being made by capitalist companies, the raw materials and engineering that goes into making something that can maneuver at Mach 10 while trying to hit a moving target also moving at Mach 10 aren't cheap.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

A massive amount of the cost comes from the computers, miniaturized guidance and targeting systems, the immense engineering and comp-sci R&D behind those devices, and the sheer difficulty of designing good explosives.

Even dumb bombs are expensive if you don't want them to dud, explode randomly, not be aerodynamic, and so on.