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So let me refer to my "stop using antisemitic words" chart...

The ~~Little Girl~~ "Hamas Militant" was ~~Filming~~ "Threatening with a deadly weapon" Israeli soldiers from the safety of her own ~~Home~~ "Hamas Base".

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm kinda in a political vacuum and, being Jewish, am kinda shielded from being called antisemitic, but are people for realsies being called antisemitic for saying statements like "a little girl was filming from her house when the IDF shot her," or is it more hyperbolic than literal? I mean, I've known some assholes from the Jewish community who would probably pull that shit to get out of an argument, but does anyone actually listen to them? I mean, I'm not gonna take hygiene tips from someone covered in dog shit...

Either way, selfishly, I just want my family in Israel to be safe; idealistically, the Israeli state should have been checked before it had even gotten to this point. You can't destroy people's lives and homes and then think they're gonna roll over when you corner them.

I hope against all logic that there's a quick and less lethal end to all this. After that, it'd sure be fucking great to see some repercussions for war crimes and crimes against humanity for once. I can't even imagine what the poor Palestinian survivors of this are gonna be like when it's all over. How can you ever go back to any reasonable form of daily living?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a joke about how everything is a hamas base in the eyes of the IDF army, and the answer from the Israeli government to any criticism calling it anti semitism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Thank you for that answer! Fuck the terrorists in government on both sides destroying all the beautiful people between them. Also, I've met some non-beautiful people in both countries. So fuck them too, but small-scale.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes people really do for realises pull out the antisemitism remarks when it comes to criticism of Israel.

Honestly wouldn’t put it past being official policy for Israeli astroturfing/propaganda a la JIDF shenanigans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I was gonna tell you to be careful with that JIDF stuff cuz conspiracies lead to blah blah blah and then did a quick look on ecosia. Jesus Christ my people suck sometimes...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it's a shame, but tbf Israelis really freaked out after Oct 7 and now see threats everywhere.

There was a strong supporting reaction at first, but then the Israelis started saying some dark things and some people are starting to feel an awkward vibe.

Hamas needs to be rooted out, it's just a lot of Israelis seem to see all gazans as hamas now, which is problematic, and lash out with "antisemitism!" When people try to deescalate.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it’s just a lot of Israelis seem to see all gazans as hamas now, which is ~~problematic~~ genocidal

fixed it for you

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think I get what you were going for with that correction. Wanna know their government's secret though, Cap? They're always ~~angry~~ genocidal.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Yeah, October 7th was pretty fucked up, but it's not like Israelis aren't under constant threat. What sucks is that kind of fear leads to suspicion and a strange flavor of xenophobia I've never really seen from other countries...

But I can tell you that, in a way, Israelis didn't necessarily see Gazans as Hamas before, but they sure as fuck saw them as an other and a threat. I swear, the things I heard from even my most liberal Israeli family members was shocking. "They just breed like rabbits," "they want to be in power so they can oppress us," "they can't hold their own elections because they'll just vote for terrorists." And then the most religious citizens of their country live part of the year in NYC, have so many kids that they forget to vaccinate them, and vote for Trump and Netanyahu in two separate elections.