I hate it here i cant stand it anymore literally almost everyone is an misanthropic orc with some kind of ranking of which kind of people are worth to live and which need to be bombed into civillazition by the "glorious democratic west". You cant even discuss genocide like the one happening in gaza with liberals here because they love their "both sides" so fucking much to the point where when you ask "is genocide bad?" they say to be in the grayzone. The west has no passion, no humanity left. The propaganda is so thick and it is everywhere not only on screens but in the air we breath it has become part of us. 90perent of the people here dont care about the genocide happening in Gaza or openly support it...the 10 percent are mostly immigrants and some westerners who have achieved to escape this dystopian propaganda campaign.
Somebody needs to bomb this place. There is no way around it, we western leftists dont have and will not have enough popular support for our own revolutions. Please president Xi Jinping, export the evolution and bomb us, i dont even care about dying...i will simply wrap myself in my USSR flag and peacefully explode to pieces knowing that what comes after cannot be worse than what we had before and that the people are finally truly free, not only my but the people of the entire world.
Dear Xi Jinping, bomb the west, we need it, we deserve it and it would do a favor to the entire world honestly.
thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Stumbled upon this thread. Is this how most of lemmygrad.ml feels?
Its obviously a shitpost, rant, whatever. Begging Xi to liberate the west is just following up the mainstream media narrative that China wants to wage war, yare yare. Some find it funny, i myself dont.
Also it is pretty dumb to ask if if this is how we ALL think, as if this is some kind of monolithic group of people. While all of the members are left-leaning, not everyone is actually marxist-leninist, each and every member is at their own stage of learning and struggling with their own contradictions.
im sorry if i am further spreading this narrative, i didnt mean to. This was supposed to be a shitpost with the whole "begging Xi to bomb us" but it seems to be more serious than that. I apologize
You'll see most of the lines in this shared in jokes or memes, but no one in the 'grad seriously thinks that China is interested in attacking the U$, or directly wants the death of innocent colonized people that would entail.
The general sentiment, that the political entity of the U$ needs to be fully destroyed, and that Westerners are incredibly blinded by propaganda, is largely shared here.
If you're not interested in seeing stuff from the grad, you should be able to block the few communities we post in pretty easily.
Maybe not so doom and gloom, but in general I think I can safely say that we agree with the broad point of this post. The west is so fully up its own ass and desperately needs a revolution, yes. I don't think that revolution can come from externally though. It'll be a long slow process, with the exploited periphery gradually liberating itself and the borders of the empire gradually contracting.
I have literally zero faith in the settler majority. I'd sooner believe y'all will go straight-up fascist before (with a major 'if' appended) you'll ever, ever take a truly progressive or egalitarian turn. I believe y'all would sooner kill your subjects-of-empire before y'all would ever liberate them. If I had the mass amounts of liquid resources necessary, I'd seek political asylum elsewhere. Y'all are lost causes to me, and I see nothing to be gained from putting my life on the line for those who'd never do the same for me.
depends but from what i can say....most of it i guess
this thread was made by the doomer western leftist gang
Yes and no. I think most people on lemmygrad have at least gone though a doom and gloom phase at one point, at least for us converts (Came from left liberalism, found communism, made a lot of sense to me when I broke through the propaganda bullshit, but felt like I hit a wall because anti-communism is so effective in the west).
If you stick around you will find a lot of good discussion with nuance, thought provoking ideas, and possibilities for positive change. But yeah, it's harder to do that than to just look at the world with disgust.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say nobody wants to die in nuclear fire.
Can you expand on this?
Are you able to engage in a rational conversation where you apply your beliefs in a consistent manner, and do not handwave genocidal actions based on weather you consider the person committing the genocide to be good?
You and I are not going to come to an agreement on what we consider a rational conversation.
I don't think you'll be able to present proof of the "Uyghur Genocide" that doesn't directly spring from the actual CIA (NED/RFA) or Adrian Zenz, though.
For the record, what we're seeing come from Gaza is what an actual genocide looks like - horrific violence and refugees.
The purported Uyghur Genocide is not only wholly lacking in documentation and refugees, but the Chinese government's actions are supported by much of the Muslim world.
The only people touting a genocide of Muslims in China, are the crackers who love nothing more than to see Muslims die.
Do you really think the "Muslim world", whatever that means, is a good source for humanitarian issues?
Right now, Palestinians are indeed victims of genocide, and both Jordan and Egypt are are resistant to take refugees. How does this track with your logic?
You are a racist.
They're acknowledging a Bad Thing is happening, and are not congratulating the zionist entity.
You said the Uighur genocide is lacking in refugees, as if a certain quantity of refugees is required for something to be a genocide. So I pointed out: around Israel, majority Muslim countries are explicitly avoiding taking Gazan refugees.
What is "the Muslim world" you were referring to? I think it's quite racist of you to treat them as a monolith and onboard the assumption that they are somehow the arbiters of Justice towards all Muslims of any ethnicity across the planet, as if there's zero internal division between them.
Nah homie, I'm not playing a rhetorical game with you.
If you think there's a Uyghur Genocide, you're welcome to provide proof.
It'll need to be proof that doesn't source the actual CIA or Adrian Zenz, to be believable.
taking palestinians as refugees means they can never go back because the zionists won't ever let that happen, no matter how much they pretend it's temporary now.
Yes, and? Palestinian refugees still want to flee to Egypt, that is why they are queuing up and attempting to cross the border. Egypt doesn't want them there. What does that say about Egypt?
did you even read what i said
What a fucking chauvinist. "Only white states can instruct on the proper treatment of Muslims. Muslim countries are barbaric."
if you're talking about the "Uyghur genocide", go ahead and provide some actual evidence (e.g. anything even remotely close to the level of evidence that exists for the ongoing genocide of Palestinians); obscure satellite photos and testimony from a dozen people with ties to the US government are not evidence
As expected.
This reminds me of a different group of people who also like a country with a red flag
It's a joke about crank theories promoted by people like Goebbels about the famines being deliberately engineered, which are rejected even by mainstream neoliberal historians but lovingly embraced by
Obviously the historical famine was a great tragedy, but that does not mean fascist lies deserve respect.
EDIT: For context, this was in response to a banned troll who would not stop fishing for the answer to 'so what should be done with settlers?' Like I don't know how that game's played by now, tuh...
Oh good, your "debate me debate me" headass came here too; crackery never fails to impress with the lengths it'll go to to nonconsensually drag people into "tHe MaRkEtPlAcE oF iDeAs".
You're never getting an answer to your question from me either, cracker. I know your kind's games way too well by now to know all you're doing is fishing for a "gotcha!" to go all "OUUUUUUUUUU, OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" about to your little fascist-ass cracker friends; and I'm half tempted to go over-the-top and obviously-hyperbolic about it... But I also know that's just giving contemptible little assrags like you exactly what you want.
True Scotsmen inbound...
You think we're gonna accuse OP of not being a real communist to satisfy your pearl-clutching fetish, to distance ourselves from their Amerika hate?
It's a joke. "President Xi, I am an eight year old girl from Wisconsin suffering under the tyranny of the terroristic Biden regime. Please send tanks and bombs and liberate us. Thank you." Are you so dense as to take this sort of mockery as a serious request?
"True Scotsman inbound..." looking ass. How do you not get embarrassed looking at yourself in the mirror?
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OP could joke (do you know what that is?) that they wish Satan himself would emerge from hell and consume Amerika whole and I don't think anyone here would be like "that means ur not a real communist!!!" But you don't know how to interact with people outside of the context of pseudo-intellectual logic-fetish arguments, do you? Muh no twue scotsman! Muh ad hominem! Muh wuhboutism!
Fuck off and shave your neck.
Shut up.
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I should probably clarify: I mean it when I say shut up.
Actually no. please do continue to waste your time, please do continue to write comments.
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OP is fine, wtf are you talking about?