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Thos 31 democrats didn't vote like that without the consent of their party. They just chose mostly safe seats to vote that way to block the motion. People like Raskin wouldn't do this without party consent and strategy, so sure only 31 voted but this was more than likely a calculated decision supported by the whole party. At the time the article came out people speculated it was to continue to make the house republicans look as dysfunctional as they are. My issue is with the whole of the party, those 31 are in essence willing scapegoats by my understanding. When I said we should be rooting everyone out, I really think it needs to be everyone.
"All Democrats"? Vilifying Bernie or AOC, for example, is gonna be a tough sell for anyone cogent.
The Democrats themselves are already primarying those members. Bernie seems to be exempt because I guarantee primarying him is near impossible and would cause disastrous publicity. His heritage may aslo be a factor. Its also not as if no progressives voted to keep Santos. Tlaib voted to keep him, It's hard to interpret this as something ANY democrat has issue with unless they've came out and said so. Just about every wing of the democratic party was represented in those 31 votes.
So sure some of them are the exceptions, they're also not decision makers (which is part of why they're the exceptions) and because they're not decision makers more than most of progressives victories happen completely outside the legislature. The only democrats the people want to keep are the ones the other democrats are trying to get rid of. Id rather remove everyone and let them earn their seats back then fail to remove enough of the establishment thats pushing out the representatives most in line with common public opinion. Because if that corporate dem establishment is gone, those progressives will almost certainly be back.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/11/squad-primary-battle-israel-gaza-pacs.html
I appreciate your thought-out response, truly. You make a number of valid points, and have inspired me to look a bit further into the details of our government's current state of wholly fucked.
It can be depressing if you do. It almost feels like whack a mole where you cant keep all the facets of the dysfunction down at the same time. It's a complex web and for the laymen like us, sometimes it feels like the more knowledgeable we get about these things the more cynical and alienated we feel from and about the system. These are feelings we need to overcome personally because they stand in our way of effecting change. Do the best you can afford to do on a local level, and you're likely already doing the best thing you can do. Accepting that some of these problems exist completely outside of your reach, like other states legislators for example can be tough, but necessary to inform your choices of effective options.