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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah but what about the democrats using superdelegates and general fuckery to get Bernie out in 2016? I know they changed the superdelegate system at some point but still. Only time I've seen an outsider actually decimate and forcibly enter the party was Trump. And even then he still capitulated to general Republican beliefs.

Plus the current democrat primary is just a hippy, biden, someone nobody has heard of and Cenk who 99% will get disqualified since the dude wasn't born in the US. I mean there's a chance Manchin might run but he's probably gonna go independent/No Labels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This year we have an incumbent, there were a huge number of candidates in the Democratic primary race for president before 2020, many dropped out before voting because they were not viable, you are totally misrepresenting the primary process.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Democrats did not need superdelegates in the end to reject Bernie in 2016. There's also some significant evidence that Bernie was supported by Russian disinformation in an effort to get President Trump elected. That same disinformation effort that was seeking to discredit US elections in both parties and led to January 6th.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what? The Russians support anything to sow discord. Just like Democrats supporting extremist Republican candidates to cause mayhem. It's literally just a facet of American politics and vice versa (American government supporting radical candidates elsewhere). Bernie's campaign was one of the most progressive the democrats had seen in forever. Even far more progressive than anyone in the squad.

Course these days the guy's a joke but I don't feel like going into his 'fall from grace'.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The so what is that your perception of him being wronged specifically comes from Russian disinformation in an effort to suppress the vote in the general election. This was overall a successful campaign.

He simply lost. It was the most successful progressive campaign since John Edwards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean, even with what the dems/media did against him he did still lose. And he did do stupid stuff on the campaign, irelevant of whoever funded him. He had avenues to continue on and cause damage, such as accepting the green party nomination with Jill Stein (yes I know about the 'possible' russian connection there) but alas he just backed down.

I guess I'll look into the russian disinfo with Bernie then. Far as I was previously aware there was just some screwy things with the Bernie bros but that was it. Don't know much about his 2020 campaign but I didn't really take that seriously anyways.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

To be clear, I haven't seen any signs of collusion or finance impropriety at all. It's more that it is a complex media space and our elections are a huge target for influence.