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Israeli officials are facing backlash after years of Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu quietly allowing Hamas to remain in power.

But reporting in the New York Times has revealed that Netanyahu's government was more hands-on about helping Hamas: they helped a Qatari diplomat bring suitcases of cash into Gaza, indirectly boosting the militant organization, according to the report.

The calculus — the Times reported on Sunday, citing Israeli officials, Netanyahu's critics, and the man's own reported statements — was to keep Hamas strong enough to counteract the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, allowing Netanyahu to avoid a two-state peace solution and keep both sides weak.

Israeli security officials got it wrong; they didn't think Hamas was capable, or even interested, in launching a large attack against the Jewish state.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I understand you are not implying that pearl harbour and 9/11 where inside jobs.

I think, you just referencing to the public support that followed those events. Right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Theres some who think the mistakes of Pearl Harbor wasn't anything but incompetence/human error.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not inside jobs necessarily but both events had credible foreknowledge of an imminent attack that wasn’t acted upon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was hubris and arrogance and incompetence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

You know false positives exist right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No, not inside jobs, but not dealt with appropriately so as to get America involved or to pass the patriot act. We know for a fact that the CIA was still trying to flip one of the terrorist pilots the day of.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, not at all, but I understand new facts can change upheld beliefs.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What facts do you have that Jewish people allowed Oct 7 to happen?

Or even the american government allowing 9/11?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The New York times did a few pieces on it at the beginning of Dec.
"Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago.
A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings." https://archive.ph/SDOlU

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Saudis are US allies. They did 911. Yet we remain allies. It doesn't mean we 'did it' through them. But it's suspect and deserves consideration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A closer inspection already showed it was rogue saudi elements and a combination of arrogant, incompetent analysts during a transition period of presidencies.

You should give that consideration.