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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Frank I love you but Id like to note that I said whiteness not Christianity. White supremacy has a very specific idea of what "culture" should be and very much alienates and supresses things outside it, including expressions of Paganism that arent just milquetoast things like wearing a Thor hammer.

Also this expression of tradition might recent rather than truly authentic but does it occure to you that thats because its all they have left to do now?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Some places in Russia were continually pagan up to this day even, there's some very interesting practices in the urals

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

than truly authentic

the thesis is that there is not a 'truly authentic' that went away. this impression of lost and vanishing authenticity is just noble savage tropes turned from indigenous people to white people.

White supremacy has a very specific idea of what "culture" should be and very much alienates and supresses things outside it

as a system racial hierarchy suppresses and shapes, but the contents of the ideology are still shifting and in competition. Yankee WASP whiteness vs. blanquimiento whiteness, is whiteness homophobic? patriarchal? is it catholic or protestant?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dont see how the first part is relevant to the situation. This screenshot is of an American white nationalist making fun of Euros for doing the Krampus festival. Says in the replies that he hates pagans. Cultural expressions that dont fit his idea of whiteness clearly disturb him. This is worthy of mockery.

As for the second part, Yankee WASP whiteness is the whiteness that's relevant to my post. The rest is irrelevant and I dont know why youre talking about it unless youre just making a misguided attempt to embrass me.

Enjoy dunking on American Christofacists with me comrade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i appreciate you're trying to stay on topic, i was just explaining/expanding Frank's post. i share his gripe about cultural narratives, it's not as relevant to the OP but more the conversation in the thread.

and in the same vein, white supremacy being unstable is a very important characteristic that's pretty relevant to the argument Frank was making, and the 'why' of the disconnect between the christofascist and european cultural expression. i apologize if you were already aware and it was unnecessary to talk about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ah okay. I get where youre coming from then.