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  • Russia confirmed a Ukrainian missile attack damaged one of its Black Sea Fleet warships.

  • But Russian officials have said that only one person was killed.

  • Independent Russian media suggests dozens may be dead.

The damage to a Russian warship appears much worse than the Kremlin is willing to acknowledge.

The Russian navy's landing vessel Novocherkassk — part of its Black Sea Fleet — was hit in a Ukrainian attack on a port in Russian-held Crimea, officials said Tuesday.

While the Kremlin-appointed governor there has said the ship was damaged and one person was killed, video and media reports paint a much-darker picture.

Images of a massive explosion at a dock in Feodosia spread on social media. Reporters and open-source intelligence channels posted photos showing smoldering wreckage at the pier, backing up Ukraine's claim that long-range missiles triggered a massive explosion that blew up the ship.

Independent Russian media is also questioning the stated death toll.

Astra, a Telegram channel sharing Russian news from independent journalists, reported there were 77 sailors aboard the Novocherkassk at the time of the Ukrainian attack; this class of ship typically has a crew size of about 100.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You seem to have forgot all the data to support your argument. I'll respond to your latest unsubstantiated bullshit, but this is the last time:

The propaganda I consume pushes me to defend America, its allies, and civilian lives.

The propaganda you consume has you fighting for America's cold war enemy. The one that has been sowing discord for decades. You're not a patriot. You're just a useful idiot for genocidal Russia that can't even win a war they started against a country 1/10th of their size.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do I need data to know you're a victim of propaganda?

You haven't even considered Ukraine might be a sunk cost. That alone makes you an irrational person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have an irrational belief that you must be correct. How original.

Try looking up the Dunning Kruger effect sometime.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

I'm not the one with an irrational belief.

I've considered Ukraine could be a sunk cost. Did you also think they were going to take back Crimea?