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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

smoke point has very little correlation with when the oils start breaking down, which is the thing people are actually worried about. Extra virgin olive oil is one of the most stable oils at high heat despite the lower smoke point. It shouldn't be used to deep fry anything, but if someone is worried about oil smoke points and carcinogens from eating heated oil, then they really shouldn't be eating fried food at all in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what I mean with regards to smoke point being a crude measurement. It doesn't tell you much, except that the oil begins smoking at that temperature.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

oh haha ok, nvm, carry on. I guess I'm just primed for seed oil discourse, I don't know why so many people these days think they're gonna get cancer if they consume just a drop of oil.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This is also in regards to your carnist talking points comment further down, but isn't this more of a symptom of the 2000's fad diets?

I remember "vegetable oil = bad" being as old as Paleo and the guys championing it aren't vegans but they're not Liver King type dudes either, meatheads used to make fun of them for eating too many vegetables and it was more about "primal living," faux-"wellness," and "detoxing" type shit.

Jack Dorsey / McConaughey types

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Yea I remember vegetable oil being bad from around the trans fat news cycle era 🤔🤔🤔

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

yeah I do agree the seed oil discourse has a wider audience than purely carnivores. I've honestly mostly encountered it from carnivores who use it to promote cooking with butter, lard and tallow, which is where that comment came from. But you're right, there are a lot of other fad diets that have latched on to the whole seed oil thing, some of which are actually vegan or compatible with veganism.