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[–] [email protected] 136 points 7 months ago (16 children)

I'll never understand why they spend so much effort pushing ads into people's faces that don't want see them and so little making ads more attractive.

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads. Every Youtuber holding a product into the camera is an ad. And people want to watch that. They want to know what new products are out there. It just has to presented appropriately.

Forced ads with mandatory 5sec isn't making people interested in your product, heck, numerous times I might have been interested in a product, but lost interested since I couldn't rewind the ad or because the ad didn't link to anything that gave me further information. A 15min video from a Youtuber reviewing a product in detail is way more effective than any regular ad I have ever seen, yet there are almost no ads in that style.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Too be honest I was fine with seeing an ad every few videos. But at some point it became unskippable ads before , during and after a video.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ads got too aggressive, people made adblockers, ads got more aggressive because of lost revenue, almost everyone starts using adblockers.

They did it to themselves, people were content with simple ads on a page, it's once they started interfering with the content and access of it that they became a problem.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (15 children)

I never had an issue with YT's 1-2 skipable ads at the beginning, or even the banner ad. But they got greedy.

The midrolls and the unskipable ads was the trigger point for me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I was fine with even having a couple very short unskippable ads every other video. Now it is all of them with one in the middle of videos longer than 5 minutes. And then of course the content creator has to put in an ad because YouTube does not pay shit for views.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads

That’s what grinds my gears. I understand ads pay bills, but showing multiple ads before a trailer for a video game or movie is excessive.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Plus nearly all advertising is insultingly stupid as to appeal to idiots.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ads are a way to fill people's heads with brand names until nothing remains except for those brands and only those brands feel safe and familiar until it becomes a conditioned reflex to choose those products. And it works.

The Holy Market forbids people would actually choose products based on their own experience and price.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I actively avoid brands with annoying ads.

When unsubscribing from pretty much any service there's usually little text box asking why. Whether or not it's the real reason for leaving, I love citing obnoxious ads as the thing that pushed me out, especially for high-dollar moves like banking or insurance.

I know it'll never accomplish anything, but it feels good. ^_^

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I find it extremely funny that YouTube serving ads also strains the same video infrastructure they're trying to increase revenue on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There is potentially a world in which you want to see ads because ads themselves do technically provide a service. You do want to know about things you care about and would want to buy… you just don’t want it obnoxiously shoved into your face all of the time in psychologically manipulative ways.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Look at the way ads used to look "back in the day", with details about the product, its features, and reasons you would actually want to buy it. New tractor model, this many HP, pulls 4 bottom plow, burns this much diesel per hour, buy now and grow more corn.

However it turned out that it worked better just to try to trick people into buying a product that they didn't need, and that's how we got the ads we have today.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

True, but if corporations don't care to adhere to ethical standards, then the users shouldn't need to either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Because a significant amount of our economy and daily life is predicated on filling it with superfluous crap. These ads are just a race for crap de jour.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would also help if I were served ads that even attempt to approach the vicinity of my own interests. That is vanishingly rare.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

SoundCloud serves me casino ads and ads in Spanish

I don't gamble and I don't speak Spanish

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I don't gamble and I don't speak Spanish

...yet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Like for real, you have all the money in the world and you know what I like and don't, so why don't tailor the ads to not annoy the fuck out of me?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"MORE!" - already wealthy people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But they just get less money from me, because I remove all non organic ads. Would non organic ads be less annoying, they could sell more shit to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Paying attention to your needs/desires takes work. They don't want to work, they just want, "MORE!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not really, they are clearly spending money and resources to grab my attention and it's not like the work is done by people who are profiting in the end anyway. Than again - I'm rather anti consume to begin with, so maybe people like me are not a valuable market to beginn with, which is fair.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

We are the more aware portion of the public.
Take a look at public linear tv for a while during prime time.
Ad breaks every 30min with a cliffhanger in the movie.
Atrocious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I'd much much much rather watch ads for products that are not the least relevant to me. I'm not going to be an active participant in my own manipulation. I'd rather be annoyed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the last ad I remember seeing was for a movie, that actually looked interesting. But rather than tell me the name in the first 10 or 20 seconds they wanted me to watch to the end before revealing. So I skipped straight out of that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They used to have a popup that told you the movie title and they took that away, so now they get a skip. If I am actually interested, I just google the actor I recognize.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads. Every Youtuber holding a product into the camera is an ad. And people want to watch that. They want to know what new products are out there. It just has to presented appropriately.

I doubt so - Sponsorblock exists. I guess some don't mind it because it supports the creators they like directly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I don't mean the sponsor segments, but the rest of the video. LTT, MKBHD and all the other tech channels, every movie and game reviewer and a lot of other stuff is all ads. Every single channel that is focused on showing you a new product is effectively an ad. And people watch it because they are interesting in seeing what new or interesting products are out there. There is no aversion to ads, there is an aversion to bad and annoying ads.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Youtube doesnt make money with the youtuber reviewing the product.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yes, but that's self inflicted. They make the rules. They build the software. They decide how ads are presented.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'll never understand why they spend so much effort pushing ads into people's faces

money

Also, disappointingly, most people don't care about the ad all that much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

A 15min video from a Youtuber reviewing a product in detail is way more effective than any regular ad I have ever seen, yet there are almost no ads in that style.

True. But probably that money does not go to Google but to the Youtuber directly, so for Google this is still a cost.

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