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It seems like there's no way that Biden can make any negotiation with Russia seem like a win to his base so if he wins it's almost an automatic 4 more years of war. But if Trump wins he could make most of the concessions that Russia wants and still sell it as "the best deal" to his fans. Is a trump win the best hope for shortening war?

Disclaimer: I would never vote for trump, I also won't vote for Biden, I'm also in a state that always goes one way so it doesn't matter at all.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukraine is going to lose the war anyway, sooner means fewer people dying at least.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, the intention of the USA isn't for Ukraine to win, just to fuck Russia up with as much NATO supplied weaponry as possible. This is to enrich the the MIC, encircle Russia so it can never challenge the USA again, and so they can refocus their forces in Asia and Africa to combat China.

If Ukraine wins (idk how likely it is if they don't have support for the whole war) it can just be another propaganda point for the State Department, but ultimately they'd even use a defeat as a win, because it battered Russia's military. And even if Ukraine loses or wins, it achieved the goal of Europe spending more on military so the USA doesn't need as many troops in Europe.