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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's probably already well known, but "Zongguo" is like "Middle Earth" or "center of the world", depending on how mean the transcriber is.

[–] OpenTTD 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Surprisingly it's not the only one. Dubai is honestly the center of (what remains of) the hub-and-spoke air travel network because it's the closest point to every other landmass on Earth. Middle Earth was supposed to be Tolkien's locale for a hypothetical creation myth of modern (well, then-modern) Britain. Alkebulan (the native name for Africa) is the cradle of humanity and the only continent where everyone there agreed what said continent was called for all of recorded/known history. I'd say being in a geopolitically central location, even if that's really just dumb luck, is something cultures have taken pride in for a very long time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's true, why wouldn't you want to be in the center of the world? I wonder if the Persians had similar thoughts about themselves, being at the center point of the silk road. The other option is to take pride in being at an extreme, which a few cultures do, but I don't know how common that is in relation.

Dubai is pretty central for the inhabited old world. IIRC the centerpoint of land on earth ends up in France, because of the Americas, and the higher landmass in the northern hemisphere, but nobody thinks of it as a global crossroads. Ice caps, mountains, the rough Atlantic and the world's largest desert make sure of that.

Alkebulan (the native name for Africa) is the cradle of humanity and the only continent where everyone there agreed what said continent was called for all of recorded/known history.

I'm sorry, you otherwise have interesting points but that's nutty. Africa has seen more languages and cultures than anywhere else, what with being our home continent, and there's no way they all coordinated their name for the continent - which maybe nobody know the extent of until the invention of proper seafaring.

[–] OpenTTD 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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You're right. My fault, I looked it up and don't know where that came from but the evidence doesn't seem to exist at all and I'm not sure why I remembered that as being a thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Oh, phew! I thought I was about to get bombarded by hate replies from Black Israelites or something (no relation to the actual country). Thanks for the grace.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure Alkebulan was actually a name given to Africa by Islamic settlers. There are thousands of indigenous names for Africa. In the words of the African man who told me about it, “we had thousands of names for Africa because we didn’t know we were supposed to only have one. Each person had their own name for it.”

[–] OpenTTD 2 points 5 months ago

That seems to be the actual case, yes.

The idea that each person had their own name for Africa is interesting to learn, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Literally Middle Kingdom or middle country

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago