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This comment made my day, just felt it was something more people should see. Thank you, @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think the spectacle of the Trump presidency did a lot for organization, whether they were libs or not.

That momentum was killed almost immediately after Biden came into office. But now there's a new spectacle, that cannot be written off as the fault of the orange man. My bloomer take is this new momentum is built on something more material and visceral that can maybe transcend the effect that killed the momentum with Biden.

Just a hope. I have this weird vibe that trump was vaguely better for the country in the way a fever is "good" because its your body fighting off infection. If you take an asprin to reduce the fever, you're not addressing the cause of the fever, just the symptoms, but now you'll take longer to get better, just in comfort. This isn't really based on theory, but shit man, a lot more people were in the streets when fascism was loud n proud.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With Trump there was a multiplication effect. The liberals wanted to cause havoc. They wanted to cause problems and spectacle. They fed into leftist organising and agitation as part of that.

As soon as Trump was gone, the liberals went back to brunch and their impact on boosting leftist organising was immediately felt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Liberals also didn’t just go back to brunch. They became much more actively hostile to organizing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the spectacle of the Trump presidency did a lot for organization

I almost saw the opposite, Trump made Libs feel like their were the resistance and a lot of younger leftists fell for it and basically became Libs themselves. All energy was directed at fighting Trump and anyone even slightly to the left of him became an "ally".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I mean, CHAZ also happened under trump which was sorta nuts. But I also understand what you're saying.