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Imagine being a quadriplegic and having someone invent a method by which you can better interact with the outside world again, but refusing it because "Twitter man bad!"
You realize Elon Musk doesn't actually do the surgery himself, right?
I would have a different opinion if it had been Civ5.
I quit playing after Civ IV, there's just nothing better than Leonard Nimoy's voice narrating it.
Heh. Yeah, the older they get the more I actually enjoy them. In fact, I actually picked up Unciv, https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/unciv-is-a-free-open-source-take-on-civilization-5-thats-coming-to-steam, since its FOSS and I can play it for hours on flights.
Hath not the potter power over the clay, to make one vessel unto honour and another unto dishonour?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=121611292
I've never played Civ 4, but even though I keep the voice volume nearly inaudible, I still always play with this mod.
Boo! Civ 6 is better. 4 was pinnacle, but I got tired of it after 1000 years.
Check out my reply to PugJesus. The gist of it is that, so far, I haven't heard about neuralink doing anything that a non-invasive BCI can't do. I'd feel differently if the implant was giving him feedback on the things he was doing, but right now it seems like an overly complicated and invasive way of doing something that can already be accomplished without surgery.
The goal of Neuralink is to accomplish far more than what non-invasive BCI can, but you can't leap straight to a finished product on your very first test. That's part of what testing means, it's research.
I have a number of concerns about Neuralink specifically. Mainly:
The scientists I've seen saying stuff like, "I work in a lab with Nematoads (flatworms), and if we had casualty rates like they've had with monkeys, we'd have our license revoked and a full investigation of the lab."
What's the long-term look like for these? How often will they need to be replaced? What's the End of Service going to look like? Will they be like that recent issue with those bionic eyes that the company just stopped supporting and the patients who had them implanted had no other choice but to go back under and get them surgically removed because they were going to just stop working.
The idea of the tech is great, but I don't trust a for-profit company to care about the people that it's going into, and a company under Musk especially. Look at all the issues with Teslas that make it seem like there's no regulatory oversight on those cars. From that billionaire woman who just drowned because the glass Tesla uses is shatterproof when submerged and the doors are electronic (so don't work without power - like when the car touches water) and the only way to manually open them is to disassemble the door panel and pull an unmarked wire, to how they have the highest accident rates of any car brand. And supposedly, their newer models (since 2021 or so) don't even have a manual shifter. The car guesses whether you want the car in drive or reverse, and if it guesses wrong, you have to change it in the touchscreen menu.
Musk's name being attached is reason enough to worry simply because of how often it seems that safety regulations just seem to disappear when he's involved.
Everything you mentioned about the Tesla vehicle issues is largely inaccurate. It's not your fault, because there's been a ton of sensationalized stories and misinformation thrown out there about them. Full disclaimer: I do own a 2020 Tesla Model 3 and love it. It's not a perfect vehicle by any means, but it's a whole lot of car for what I paid, and it's required almost no maintenance or attention from me over the past 4yrs beyond rotating and changing tires. I don't like Elon Musk and think he's a giant tool/lunatic in so many ways, but Tesla makes pretty damn solid cars despite him. I wish they'd get rid of him, though I bet he has a controlling/majority share unfortunately. I bought my Tesla before he became a huge raging asshole on public platforms, and that definitely contributes to hesitation at buying another in the future (though that's several years out anyway).
You realize this tech has existed for like a decade, right?
Shit, I remember research from 20 years ago.
So why is Neuralink a thing, then?
Because a quadriplegic can play a pc civilization video game on it. I don’t even like Elon Musk anymore but this is badazz.
Imagine being able to control something and staying up so excited as a quadriplegic person and then passing out and still dreaming about the game.
But yes,let’s be hesitant no? I assume they are following the regulations and what not
Marketing.
https://roboticsbiz.com/the-history-of-brain-computer-interfaces-bcis-timeline/
If that's what it takes to get the tech into the heads of people who need it, yay marketing.
Baby Elon is terrified of dying and thinks brain implant tech research is the first step towards his immortality. Also an ego move because sh*tstain mcgee (Elon) is a dumb narcissist.
Ah, back to "we don't want advances that could help quadriplegics because Twitter man bad!" Again.
He said something nice about Trump so he must be cursed for 7 generations
Imagine spending your time, money, and resource on fancy thought chips instead of actually working to cure the disease bcz you think a brain chip is worth more money.
What are your opinions on cochlear implants?
Irrelevant, cochlear implants don't require them to crack open your skull in a major surgery that can kill you.
So you would be fine with them "spending the money on developing fancy thought chips instead of a cure" if the implant had similar complications/survivability rates as cochlear implants?
And cochlear surgery, while quite safe, isn't exactly the most minor surgery. They're going pretty deep into your head to put that stimulator gizmo on your auditory nerve behind your inner ear.
No, this technology is bad news. Have billionaires and governments ever shown themselves to behave ethically and in the best interest of anybody but themselves ever?
This is basically the internet of things, except inside your head. The security implications alone should be enough to not want this.
But, that's my bad, it's on me for thinking people are on average smart enough to see a problem before it becomes one. It's been too long since the pandemic, I'm starting to forget how stupid the population actually is.
Look man, you seem to be buying into the boogy-man of people just getting these implanted on a whim. That's not the use case, and probably won't be in the next 50-100yrs.
This is a technology specifically for people with hugely debilitating conditions. People who can't move or talk, and have to communicate with eye movements.
You can talk all you want about how dangerous this technology is, and you're right. It potentially could be. You know what else that's true for? Pacemakers. Pacemakers are hugely invasive to put in, and have proven vulnerable to Bluetooth attacks over and over and over again. It's trivially easy to hack someones pacemaker and potentially kill them. It's an IoT device implant through and through. And you know what no one is advocating against having? Pacemakers. Because without them people would just die instead.
This is the same thing. Are there dangers? Absolutely. You know who doesn't care? The person who literally takes 20min to type out "Hello" on an eye tracker keyboard. This tech is game changing for them. It gives them the ability to interact with the world far beyond any other measure we have today. And I don't think it takes much empathy to realize that maybe that makes it worth investing in.
...working on the "thought chips" are working on a cure. Or a workaround for the handicap, at least.
Would you accuse the guy who invented the wheelchair of wasting their time on a fancy mobile lay-z-boy instead of "working on a cure"?
No, I just know how people like Elon Musk think. He thought this was a better investment than research to cure this. I mean, if you haven't figured it out yet, which it seems like you haven't, they are using this guy as a PR stunt for the product.
There was no intention or aim of improving the life of quadriplegic people with this.
It's purely a means to an end for Elon Musk. And quiet frankly, people should be scared shitless of having these things inside their head.
But, it's a feel good story, so people don't see the wider implications of the device.