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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hello world!

We would like to start by saying thank you ❤, no really 🙏 THANK YOU to ALL the moderators out there!

Without you folks, we would have no one to help keep our community safe and help build the communities both here on Lemmy.World and on other fine instances. To this end, we want to make sure your voices are heard 📣 loud and clear📣.

So, in the spirit of transparency, we would like everyone to know that we are looking to help out the folks working on Sublinks. Over the last several months we have grown to be more than just Lemmy.World. We've added platforms such as Pixelfed and Sharkey to help offer our users more diverse options for expressing themselves online. We still are very committed to Mastodon as well.

We DO NOT plan on moving away from Lemmy as a software platform at this time. Any changes in our core services would need to be discussed extensively internally AND externally with our community members. We firmly believe in the growth of the Fediverse and without the users, there would only be software, and that's no fun!

Sooo...

The Sublinks team has written up a little survey, which we feel is both thorough and inclusive. It covers a wide range of topics, such as user privacy, and community engagement, along with trying to gauge things that are difficult when moderating.

Also please be aware the information collected by this survey is completely anonymous. As many of us in the social sciences background know, if you want the REAL feelings of individuals, they need to feel safe to express themselves.

👉Moderation Survey HERE👈

Please feel free to comment in this thread, we will do our best to respond to any genuine questions.

We look forward to hearing from each and every one of you!

=Sincerely,
Fedihosting Foundation

PS ... also if this sounds like a corporate press release to you folks, we still punk 🤘😜🤘

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is it?

I was under the impression that Sublinks was basically a drop-in replacement for the backend of Lemmy, just with better mod tools. If Lemmy.world switched to it, would normal users (not mods) even notice or care?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

From what I can tell, it's more worrying that .world is trying to essentially build up a new site like Mbin, from the ground up, in Java, rather than just working to make Lemmy better. It appears to be a severely underestimated workload for no benefit whatsoever, other than "better" mod tools, which could be folded into Lemmy either way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I agree reimplementing the protocol in Java instead of Rust seems like a downgrade. ~~I think part of the reason for Sublinks is creative differences with @Dessalines~~, but even if the problem is getting upstream acceptance for patches (edit: and it isn't) it seems more efficient to fork the existing code than to start from scratch.

But it's their time to waste, so whatever. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Edit: I stand corrected.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

We have never rejected any patches from lemmy.world admins or from sublinks developers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think Sublinks would like to ultimately hijack Lemmy’s user base and take the project in a different direction. They’ll maintain a Lemmy-compatible API until they have a critical mass of instances/users using it and then do as they please. Based on what I’ve read, Sublinks people don’t like the Lemmy developers or at least the tech choices and way the project is managed.

I guess I can understand that, but I’m skeptical of their intentions too. And, as a Java engineer myself, I find it pretty annoying that they’re pushing a Java backend over the existing Rust one. Seems like a step backwards.