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Edit: There's a lot of people in the comment section who clearly didn't read the article so let me clarify that no, this is not about Judge Aileen Cannon. Read. The. Damn. Article.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (14 children)

There won't be a civil war unless\until the prospect of a civil war starts to look profitable to the .1%.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Used to agree with that, now it's a maybe. The US elite created the seeds of MAGA and the christian right back in the days of Reagan, and they've fully lost control of it, Trump has at least some measure of control on the group, but I feel it's only because he's pretending to do what they want.

Just as with the actual US revolution, the movement was started by the 1% for their own interests. Which they gaslit and orchestrated for their own gain until they lost control of it.

For the uninitiated: they started riots to pressure lawmakers to not pass a new tax on them, not the working class, and new laws preventing them from defrauding London based banks with what amounts to wire fraud by regular mail by creating shell companies in different colonies, getting loans for exploration and land use, and then closing the "company" and repeating.in a different colony.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I have no doubt gaggles of these goons will start some shit here and there, but a Civil War would mean the US military has either fractured or someone raised a domestic army capable of fighting the US military, which is so crazy I don't even know why I mentioned it.

You have to remember the 'state-of-the-art' of war in 1861 was that men, munitions, and information moved at the maximum speed of a train, but more likely horse. And the distance between the most technologically advanced weapons available and a farmer's rifle was within an order of magnitude of technological progress. Today the distance between civilian and military communications, field intelligence, and weaponry might as well be to another star system. And before anyone references past insurgent success against modern US military- they didn't get their weapons at WalMart- they're supplied by other national militaries. A Civil War starting with a civilian uprisings just isn't a military possibility.

And I really don't see any scenario by which the US military starts fighting itself. I'd be curious what scenarios others think might lead to that but I just don't see anything on the table that could make a US military commander accept an order to attack other US military assets. I think something like a military coup would be far more likely than a civil war at this point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

A modern civil war will not be fought on battle fields. That shit was pointless and stupid in the first civil war (which is a large reason why the South lost, they wanted glorious battles, and the north just burned cities)

No, a modern civil war will look like the mess in Syria or Haiti. It will be disorganized, chaotic, and there will be far too much pointless bloodshed, with no battle lines. Just a bunch of assholes killing people who they disagree with.

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