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Why do people here really not like Trotskyists? (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Why do people here really not like Trotskyists? Is it just because of his beef with Stalin and not an actual criticism of his views? Do people really not think a global movement would be superior for the betterment of all people?

Edit: Thank you to everyone who provided context and history, y’all are a wealth of knowledge.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I think you're conflating Trotskyism, thought based on the works of Trotsky, with Trots. Regardless of what Trotsky wrote and believed, Trots generally oppose AES and are generally defined by that and bringing up Stalin and Stalinists to bash at every opportunity, even when it doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand.

EDIT: Also I swear to god they fucking read What is to Be Done and come to the conclusion "We gotta start a newspaper in 2024!"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

The printing press is a compelling new technology that will let us spread our ideas to the people!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That just sounds like being a lib with extra steps

But yeah they sound pretty bad from the general consensus.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

this is an incredible read of the IMT in England

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

idk, Trots seem to follow Trotsky's example pretty well from what I know of the former: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/trotsky.htm