this post was submitted on 05 Apr 2024
64 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13505 readers
994 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank

Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here

Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Not always 100% with Shea but worth reading

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All commies like an international proletariat and world revolution! The devil is in the details on how one wants to build a practicable movement to achieve it, and one with a solid base in both theory and material conditions. I would recommend that anyone reading Trotsky also read widely so as to have a solid ground for critique in many directions - and to compare how well theories from 100+ years ago bore out re: the history from which we can now all benefit in our analyses. One of the things that makes toxic Trots end up toxic is that they don't actually challenge themselves or leave their bubble. They only trust other Trots when it comes to international analysis, for example, which is why they're pretty much always wrong about Israel - they're getting all of their takes from like 7 trade unionists that are trying their best to wish a radical Israeli working class into existence.

Ruthless criticism of all that exists!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

and to compare how well theories from 100+ years ago bore out

Yeah his stance on separation of the peasantry and the proletariat is kind of moot today, right?