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Why do people here really not like Trotskyists? Is it just because of his beef with Stalin and not an actual criticism of his views? Do people really not think a global movement would be superior for the betterment of all people?

Edit: Thank you to everyone who provided context and history, y’all are a wealth of knowledge.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Trots and MLs want practically the same thing but Trots define themselves by their opposition to MLs. Depending on the circumstances they join the "tankies bad" crowd when it suits them, then drop out of it when it doesn't.

This splitting and wrecking is incredibly harmful to the left. There's absolutely no tolerance for Vaushites or nato-"anarchists" that form the core of that anti-tankie crowd, because it is anti-communism. Trots therefore represent a dangerous tendency within the left that might split and join in with anti-communism if they feel a particular way on a particular day.

With that said my experience with trots is that they have been very good at two particular things: Archiving and newspapers, which includes blogs and some sites that are blogs but manage to present as larger news orgs.

Oh and their entryist and reformist tactics have repeatedly failed.