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For context, the PSU student council and elected body has had a resolution calling for PSU to divest from Boeing and cut all relationships since 2021, which the administration has ignored. It is the ‘democratic’ will of the student to cut ties with Boeing but you wouldn’t know that by all the kvetching and moaning in these threads and on the PSU subreddit

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Define high paying because my initial reaction to this is that it’s a huge exaggeration

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can afford to rent a 1 bedroom apartment <= 30 minute commute from work at <30% after taxes

If a car is necessary, then add all the costs associated with that to the rent

I think this is reasonable, spending 25% on rent is still an absurd amount of money

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Spending 25% on rent is a ridiculous impossible fantasy for most people (if they can even afford rent)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know that's the point of the argument I'm making that the very few jobs that allow for that are very close to systems of extreme exploitation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It seems like you’re making two separate arguments. One is that economic safety is rare and gatekept behind exploitative work. The other is that exploitative work makes up the majority of comfortable American jobs. I don’t disagree with your larger point. I just think there’s a middle ground where you can live in what most of the world would consider luxury and not be directly contributing to violence at home or abroad. All existence in the imperial core benefits from imperialism, but there’s still a difference between, for example, being a teacher in the imperial core and working in the factory that manufactures airplanes for the military. And depending on where you live, many teachers are indeed living in what much of the world would consider luxury thanks to imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I could do it right now if I started working for the ammo and bomb factory

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s really not an exaggeration. I can go into detail but you’re not going to like it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s an ambiguous point as I’ve explained above. But sure yeah go for it. I’ll be happy to admit if you shock or surprise me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

No I read your other comment.

I just think there’s a middle ground where you can live in what most of the world would consider luxury and not be directly contributing to violence at home or abroad.

I already know this is where we’re going to differ because imho this is a useless point that doesn’t really help anyone because…

And depending on where you live, many teachers are indeed living in what much of the world would consider luxury thanks to imperialism.

Like okay let’s just stretch the word luxury until the seams rip. You can always find some random position somewhere where someone is making fine money, but that obfuscates the reality where, no, teachers as a whole are not doing fine. There are not plentiful jobs that are paying well for the masses of people and those that have them are usually assisting in direct exploitation of the third world. This isn’t controversial unless you have no idea what living in the US is actually like.