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The US side shows how each of the various heads got their position (all by presidential appointment), but the DPRK side doesn't. Also it doesn't say who the guy pictured for "(by Supreme People's Assembly Presidential Appointment)" is and how he got his position.
And for "fairness", it should probably mention that those presidential appointments require approval from the Senate (except the DNC Chair).
Yeah, I'd love to know what positions are elected and which are appointments.
Pretending that Kim Jung-Un isn't the head of state is just silly. There's no "premier" but Kim is "President of the State Affairs" which is effectively head of state.
I also wonder who is really calling foreign policy shots in the DPRK, although you could ask the same question of the U.S. Highlights the issue with simply naming who's in a post that nominally has that role.
Kim is probably heavily involved in that since he has no lobbyists afaik.
I took my mother out for lunch today and showed this to her, and her response was basically:
It's absolutely inscrutable to people that aren't terminally online. So it's a perfect piece of leftist media.
not nearly wordy enough
i'd like to squeeze in a label of the guy who appointed Kim head of the military, and briefly expand on highest legislative powers, even if only to state explicitly that if a "bill" passes "congress" that's it you're done.
Our glorious leftist posters squeezing text onto memes in ways previously thought impossible
look at all that empty space!
also the meme should be in night mode rather than black text on white backgroud, your monitor isn't a piece of paper.
The people yearn for night mode.
the people yearn for readability in bright conditions, leave it how it is
your monitor isn't a piece of paper
(I don't actually own one of those, but I would be interested if they got the cost down and movement to appear smooth, which is probably extremely hard to do.)
yeah these won't sell much until they're usable for video and i haven't heard of any with smooth text scrolling yet
dat refresh rate... 
its like the original kindle.. but with pastel colors
uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire
I don't think the US secretary of the interior and the Korean minister of agriculture are the closest matches for eachother you could find. I am pretty sure Yankeeland has a secretary of agriculture and Korea has a minister of the interior.
Perhaps Ministry of Land and Environment Protection would be the closest to the US's Department of Interior
A few pointers
-Increase the font for readability
-Think about a dark background color with white text for a dark mode
-Think about using another font, any sans serif on Google fonts is probably fine
It should show who appoints NK ministers.
Should also clarify that Kim Yong Nam is the SPA President
also explain what single vote system is because libs will literally think it means Kim Jong Un casts a single vote for everything.
It should show who appoints NK ministers.
Did you mean this about a previous version, or is there a way to make it more clear in this version?
For the current version as of this new comment. For example who appoints Choe Sun-Hui? I assume that either the party or the SPA appoints her but without clarifying it liberals will just assume that Kim Jong Un appoints her like Biden. You really have to spell things out here.
Also make the appointed by Biden more prominent so it takes up more of the screen. That way it has the same effect as the old version that used to get passed around.
It should show who appoints NK ministers
Otherwise, you just get to Both Sides and You Don't Understand Senate Confirmation the post
Date it for clarity...
Legislative heads are the speaker of the house and the senate majority leader. Kamala’s power is just to cast tie breaker votes in the senate.
While I agree that Biden effectively has highest legislative powers, it is not because of the veto power (which is subject to override by congress anyway). It is because he has de facto control over the administrative agencies, which is where most of our legislation really happens, and because he has the power to write executive orders.
While I agree that Biden effectively has highest legislative powers, it is not because of the veto power (which is subject to override by congress anyway). It is because he has de facto control over the administrative agencies, which is where most of our legislation really happens, and because he has the power to write executive orders.
How should I capture this in the infographic?
Be sure to include the date this info was compiled in the image for posterity
Stickying this was a good idea, I very quickly saw it this morning before leaving for work and assumed it was a shitpost (never zoomed in), without noticing the comm.
Thanks both to the mods and to the author.
So much head.
I'd make the wide columns narrower.
I can tell you the immediate response from anyone in the US upon looking at this: "Yeah but Kim Jong Un can kill anyone he doesn't like so it doesn't matter"
I have it here saying that Boeing just assassinated a whistleblower recently.
not sure what this image is trying to say
I think the idea is that despite our much-hyped checks and balances, and the common perception of the DPRK as "basically an absolute monarchy of the Kims", there is actually an argument to be made that power in the DPRK is actually less centralized in the executive than it is here.
I would shrink this down and simplify it. Just show the roles held by Biden and Kim, don't worry about appointments or blocks of text. Imagine the meme about the Soviets winning the space race - its entire story is told with just two flags.
edit: hmm on second pass paring it down more than it already is doesn't quite work, but I would still try to remove as much text as possible. Worrying about debate lords arguing with your infographic is basically the same as surrendering before you've even started.
It might be more eye-catchy if the walls of text were at the bottom not the top.
Honestly this would probably be better lib-bait if it were 5x more simplified, and had a clear message like "Tell me again who really has checks and balances?" but I get that you're going for accuracy over brevity.
The list is too long for people to read. Maybe you could lose some ministers?
There's also a lot of text, especially if you want to get you message across to people who are hostile to it in the first place.
no way bro actually supports dprk 💀💀💀💀
I support the DPRK because Kim Il Sung's family was Presbyterian and I must have solidarity with his struggle against the countries who bombed all their churches
Imagine supporting the illegitimate Capitalists’ Republic of Korea over the DPRK LOL
In this house, we call them Korea and Occupied Korea.
This is your only comment
The "All positions elected unless specified otherwise" is redundant now with the "elected" under them (which btw being green would probably improve readability)
The US president being so important was always weird to me.
Until I learned that compared to my countries president, he has a bunch of actual official powers and gets to appoint the USs version of the ministers. Why the hell does one person have the power to veto laws and appoint the top executives of the laws that pass and issue vaguely defined executive orders that can seemingly overwrite any laws that still got through in a pinch. The only thing stopping the US president from just straight up overthrowing the legislature and ruling by decree is the fact that the Senators might get angry due to being out of a job and complain to the supreme court... one that the president nominates the members of.
Lose the paragraphs at the top. Don't use specific names, just titles and their descriptions. Make it into a chart instead of a list. Don't do the portraits either. The no names and no photos will work in your favor from a propaganda standpoint.
It's certainly different. I was intrigued by your suggestion, because at face value it sounds correct that the no name/no photo thing will be better as you don't come into it with your presuppositions, but it seems not as impactful IMO. You can't tell at a glance that it's one person occupying multiple posts. I think it's very much a knowing your target audience thing.
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