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Bill Gates-backed nuclear contender Terra Power aims to build dozens of UK reactors::A Bill Gates-backed clean energy player is hoping to build dozens of nuclear reactors in the UK and will compete with global rivals.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what timeline are we in that bill gates is not the worst guy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crazy times indeed. He is for sure not the lesser evil of all the billionaires but he has the best PR team of them all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i'd argue that musk has even better pr team, if your goal is forming a cult that is

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Lets hope they don't run windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

General rule of thumb - if the current UK government is in favor of something it's probably a really terrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Dismissing all ideas of those you don't like is a stupid idea and leads to you becoming dissociated from the views of the population at large but you do you I guess

At least break ideas down into categories small enough that you form a viewpoint on it to compare to theirs, as it's near impossible to find a group you agree or disagree with on everything

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not suggesting that a SMR can't be built, I'm saying that they're a massive waste of money, unless you hold RR stock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, this Tera Power project is also for SMRs...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

SMRs are great for decentralization of the power grid.

Which makes the viability of renewables like wind and solar much more viable, as you can have the reactor for each mini grid throttle down based on current renewable yield, and throttle back up when the sun goes down or the wind stops.

It also means that issues like Texas had in the winter of 2021 would be a lot smaller in magnitude, as having one SMR and renewables go offline would only cause a local power outage, instead of entire cities suddenly being without heat or power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't find any sources that support SMRs being used as peaker plants, conventional nuclear certainly can't behave this way. Do you have any links?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do this but it makes them even more expensive, because you’ve built an expensive plant for operational capacity that you don’t use.

We should be load following with storage, not nukes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have a source on that? I can't find anything supporting SMRs for peak use. How quickly can they come online? How much notice to take offline? How long to reach peak generation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why would you get a small unit when you can get big one.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as I dislike Bill Gates, I hope that this project finds success. With that said however, they're going against Rolls Royce, GE, and Hitachi, which are probably more trustworthy for the government than a relatively new startup

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Rolls Royce, GE, and Hitachi are more likely to succeed, but they're doing little to innovate beyond light water reactors. Even among LWRs, NuScale has a more interesting design because it contains enough water to shut down without human intervention.

It's good that some startups are trying to improve long-tail safety, because the probability of failure increases with the number of reactors in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk about you but in a world where collapse is a distinct possibility, I'd rather not have a bunch of nuclear facilities just hanging around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should inform yourself better. Nuclear power plants are not like on the Simpsons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know nuclear power plants need vast amounts of water pumped around them to keep them cool. If the worst of the climate models come true (which is likely as it stands) and we have mass civil unrest, there's no guarantee water and power will flow to them.

It's an unnecessary risk, we have other options.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You think the seas are just going to dry up? You're more dense than the uranium powering these plants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol "water exists so how can a nuclear power plant possibly not get it". Who's the dense one here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Keep being a science illiterate retard lmao

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd cheer if it was Thorium. Uranium is only going to get more expensive. And I worry Bill is only after the tech that goes into UK submarines powered by these small RR reactors.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thorium is nowhere even close to being a viable technology. Even at the most optimistic estimates (that are somewhat based in reality) it'll be multiple decades until this stuff can make an impact. We don't have that kind of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I accept that. But if were Thorium I'd be jumping up and down with pompoms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (26 children)

On the one hand, I think that's great. We need more nuclear power to mitigate the climate disaster.

On the other hand, I don't trust anything Bill Gates does after he totally fucked up the U.S. education system.

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